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    Exclamation Starship SN10 planned launch today

    They are currently targeting for 9:54am CST. It's live on several Youtube channels.
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    Default Re: Starship SN10 planned launch today

    The countdown list is up on Nerdle Cam.

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    Default Re: Starship SN10 planned launch today

    when?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    when?
    That question is so common the nerds have taken to spelling it “wen” and even making wen t shirts.

    And speaking of SpaceX names, SN 10 is now named “Charm”, as in Third time’s the.

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    I see the hashtag #wenlanding. Current eta for launch is about 2pm CST according to "What About It".
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    thx!

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    4 minutes to launch. This is looking promising.
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    Abort!
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    Just a little fizzle.
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    Default Re: Starship SN10 planned launch today

    Maybe try again today at about 4:30pm CST.
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    Spacex to go live at 5:15pm CST for a launch soon. We'll see what happens.
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    Launch may be in 6 minutes or so. 6:15 Eastern.
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    Spacex is live now. Launch in less than 5 minutes.
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    Yes! It's standing! Third time's a charm indeed!
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    A major milestone in spaceflight just made.

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    oops.
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    Ya, but.....
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    That did not go well.

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    My brother is a SpaceX junkie and he says a minor "adjustment" to the landing legs will make everything right for next time.
    Still, it's going to be a very long time before anyone is brave or stupid enough to fly on that thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    My brother is a SpaceX junkie and he says a minor "adjustment" to the landing legs will make everything right for next time.
    Still, it's going to be a very long time before anyone is brave or stupid enough to fly on that thing.
    It appeared that there was uncontrolled flame just before landing that continued until the RUD event.
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    I’m not sure the landing legs deployed.
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    It looks like it landed too hard, causing a leak in fuel lines. The leaked fuel then ignited and boom!

    It's going to be a while before they can put people inside one of those. Even Falcon 9s blow up on landing once in a while. Capsule reentry is much more fail-safe. For one thing, you don't hit the ground with a bunch of explosive fuel and LOX right underneath you. There is something Space Shuttle-ish about the Starship flight profile.

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    I think people will be happier if they are strapped into an ejection seat for landing...
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    gotta say the filming is great but as it slows down it looks like a ‘60’s marionette show with smoke swirling off to the side.

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    I wonder what the purpose of the giant R2D2 is that was sitting next to the landing site?

    I did not think the intent was for astronauts to actually return in the rocket. Just get the rocket back down for reuse. Am I wrong?

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    I could be wrong but I think the R2D2 was Star Hopper. Apparently kept around for some reason.

    Ironically SN10 appeared to lift off again like she wanted to take flight before RUD.

    20 years from now I can see point to point earth transport with a descendent of SN10. New York to Beijing in 90 minutes?
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    Elon's plan is to have people sitting in the nosecone of that thing as it reenters and lands. No other way to return from a Starship trip.

    The brilliant thing about old-fashioned capsules is that you get to reenter at plasma temperatures and hit the ground without a fueled rocket with engines burning glued right under your arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George. View Post
    Elon's plan is to have people sitting in the nosecone of that thing as it reenters and lands. No other way to return from a Starship trip.

    The brilliant thing about old-fashioned capsules is that you get to reenter at plasma temperatures and hit the ground without a fueled rocket with engines burning glued right under your arse.
    What is the big savings for not having an independent capsule reentry? Especially as, for man space flights, it seems the people will stay in orbit, or depart for the moon/mars at any rate. I can see the advantage of reusing the rocket, but is there that much added benefit in landing it manned? It seems to me that the high cost of space travel has been getting people into space, not back down.

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    Elon wants to use the same rocket to land on Mars, the Moon, and Earth. There is a reason why it's a bad idea - reentry and landing conditions couldn't be more different. Mars has less gravity but not enough atmosphere to slow down a capsule without retrorockets, and the Moon of course has very little gravity and no atmosphere at all. The Earth's atmosphere can slow you down - or burn you up, and the landing is much harder on the ship due to gravity being 2.5 times that on Mars. Starship is really designed for landing on Mars but needs to land back home as well.

    Think of Starship as a motorsailer with better fireworks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George. View Post
    Elon wants to use the same rocket to land on Mars, the Moon, and Earth. There is a reason why it's a bad idea - reentry and landing conditions couldn't be more different. Mars has less gravity but not enough atmosphere to slow down a capsule without retrorockets, and the Moon of course has very little gravity and no atmosphere at all. The Earth's atmosphere can slow you down - or burn you up, and the landing is much harder on the ship due to gravity being 2.5 times that on Mars. Starship is really designed for landing on Mars but needs to land back home as well.

    Think of Starship as a motorsailer with better fireworks.
    Thanks, I will admit to a lack of knowledge of SpaceX's grand scheme. It certainly seems like you are correct: designing one thing that tries to do too much often fails. Elon often suffers from a little too much hubris, IMO. He always seems to be the type of engineer who, though perhaps very smart, discounts decisions made be people who came before him, as if he always knows better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peb View Post
    I wonder what the purpose of the giant R2D2 is that was sitting next to the landing site?

    I did not think the intent was for astronauts to actually return in the rocket. Just get the rocket back down for reuse. Am I wrong?
    I believe it is a test tank, being used to test using thinner and lighter stainless steel construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S/V Laura Ellen View Post
    I believe it is a test tank, being used to test using thinner and lighter stainless steel construction.

    Are you referring to the old "starhopper" prototype?

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