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    Could the original object be oil fired? we seem to have only considered gas and coke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birlinn View Post
    Could the original object be oil fired? we seem to have only considered gas and coke.
    So you dont buy the cream separator suggestion?
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    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birlinn View Post
    Nope.
    OK.

    Can you provide any images of any similar Babbitt furnaces?

    Because several cream separators from that general industrial era have been posted and they all look like cream separators.

    Considering that the alloys used as 'white metal' bearings melt at just a few hundred degrees F, why does this 'turbine' even exist, when a naturally aspirated flame of pretty much anything would provide sufficient heat?

    Also, why does the little door bolt on? It looks for all the world like a maintenance access, and nothing at all like something you would open and close several times while your pot metal comes up to temperature.
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    1: It does not look like the cream separators pictured here.
    2: Why would you want the rotating bit so low down if you were separating cream? A low-ish level stove for heating ladles of molten metal seems more likely.
    3: I think the charcoal or coke was in the upper cylindrical drum, with the air being blown in via that hole. The fuel would need to be blown to get up to temperature- ask any smith.
    4; The bolted door would not be for fuel, just for occasionally clearing out a bit of ash.
    5: I must admit the horizontal 'spike' has me a bit puzzled, whether it's a cream separator or a Babbitt stove. I have guessed temperature indicator of some sort.

    I am still open to persuasion, however!

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    The thing about antique, cast iron cream separators is that they all LOOK LIKE antique, cast iron cream separators.







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    It's sorta like bicycles: They all look like bicycles.






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    Babbitt pot with ladles at auction...
    (I really did use a gas kitchen stove with a cast iron pan to do Babbit)
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    Thanks for all those extra pics. I am now much more sure it is not a cream separator!

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    Quote Originally Posted by birlinn View Post
    Thanks for all those extra pics. I am now much more sure it is not a cream separator!
    OK.

    I get it.

    Yer trollin'.

    Well done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    OK.

    I get it.

    Yer trollin'.

    Well done!
    First time I have been accused of that I believe, so an honour!
    ETA: And I recant!
    Having had a further look at the final pic in post #45, you guys have at last convinced me.
    The pipe and brass gizmo coming out of the drum on the OP pics are an oiler for the bearing for a missing drive shaft. It was a lack of brackets for fittings that confused me.
    That particular creamer on post #45 does not have all the brackets for fittings that all the others do, and could work as shown for the OP's version. On the OP pics, there is even a little pipe coming in to the drum, for milk supply to what I now take to be the butter churn alongside as seen in #45. Not sure how that would connect to the separator but though. The missing top casting on the OP I suppose could have incorporated a bracket to steady the big top milk drum.
    So I wuz wrong; apologies.
    Last edited by birlinn; 03-04-2021 at 12:22 PM.

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    For melting babbit all you would need is your blowtorch.


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    That looks like work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birlinn View Post
    First time I have been accused of that I believe, so an honour!
    ETA: And I recant!
    Having had a further look at the final pic in post #45, you guys have at last convinced me.
    The pipe and brass gizmo coming out of the drum on the OP pics are an oiler for the bearing for a missing drive shaft. It was a lack of brackets for fittings that confused me.
    That particular creamer on post #45 does not have all the brackets for fittings that all the others do, and could work as shown for the OP's version. On the OP pics, there is even a little pipe coming in to the drum, for milk supply to what I now take to be the butter churn alongside as seen in #45. Not sure how that would connect to the separator but though. The missing top casting on the OP I suppose could have incorporated a bracket to steady the big top milk drum.
    So I wuz wrong; apologies.
    No worries!

    Soon enough, you'll be along to straighten us out on something else.

    Cheers!
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    Enough of cream separators, what is babbit made from? Tin and lead?
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    Babbitt is made of:
    89.3% tin
    7.1% antimony
    3.6% copper

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    There are several common Babbitt metal alloys, the selection depends on the specific bearing use, reciprocating, high speed, sliding, and etc.
    (I have about 3 varieties on hand, the pour point and preheat is sort of critical to success)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbitt_(alloy)


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