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    Default First step toward legality

    Today, the FWC came and looked at my vacationer. Actually, they looked at my receipts, measured the boat, and gave me the form that I need to take to the tax commission to get the title and registration. One step closer to launching...100_0617.jpg

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    You'd think we lived in different countries. I built a similar sized boat, and nobody had to look at it. I filled out one form and wrote a check for state tax on previously untaxed materials, mailed it in, and that was it. All the paperwork arrived a week or two later. Strange place, this U.S. of A.
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    I do live in a different country, for UK use, no paperwork required at all.. if you want to sail to the continent then you'll need registration, small ships registration less than 80ft doesn't need a official inspection though your insurer would.
    To get your boat on the SSR you fill in a form and pay £25 every 5 years.
    Just an amateur bodging away..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woxbox View Post
    You'd think we lived in different countries. I built a similar sized boat, and nobody had to look at it. I filled out one form and wrote a check for state tax on previously untaxed materials, mailed it in, and that was it. All the paperwork arrived a week or two later. Strange place, this U.S. of A.

    We do live in different countries. That's why it's called the United States (with a capital S) and not the United Provinces. Properly, the third person is used (i.e. "The United States are..." and not "The United States is...". For further information, refer to the 10th Amendment.
    Heute ist so ein schöne Tag...

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    I just registered my new Jericho Bay skiff in Vermont. Went to the DMV, showed them my pile of material receipts, a picture of the boat and I walked out with the registration, Hull ID number and the title. The poor lady at the window has never registered a home built boat before, so it took her a while.
    Back in New York State, I had to have someone from the county come and inspect the hull and engrave the hull ID into the transom of another boat I built years ago.
    Different states, different rules.
    The important thing is that it gets done.
    I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.

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    In Oregon, we take a home-built boat to the local office of the Sheriff's 'Marine Division', let them look at it, and pay a small registration fee with some minor paperwork. Boat trailers, otoh, don't require registration/licensing. Just across the river in Washington... they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Z. View Post
    We do live in different countries. That's why it's called the United States (with a capital S) and not the United Provinces. Properly, the third person is used (i.e. "The United States are..." and not "The United States is...". For further information, refer to the 10th Amendment.
    Are the rules of pedantry the same in all states? ;-)
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    In Illinois I had to get the inspection, but the two dudes that showed up had never seen a boat without a brand name before, let alone wooden or owner-built. Their world was measuring size limits on bass.
    Ken

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    Are the rules of pedantry the same in all states? ;-)
    Of course not:

    In New England: delivered with dry wit.
    Down south: served up with a gracious smile.
    West Coast: all passive-aggressive, because we just want to help.
    The Heartland: Pedanty what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiletto View Post
    Are the rules of pedantry the same in all states? ;-)
    I believe that is also covered in the 10th...
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    Here in Oz to register, for a boat of 5 meters or more, or carrying more than 5hp, you have to provide a proof of purchase.....
    So if you build yourself, you need to make a statutory declaration. Your trailer is dealt with separately.

    Congratulations - a real milestone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woxbox View Post
    Of course not:

    In New England: delivered with dry wit.
    Down south: served up with a gracious smile.
    West Coast: all passive-aggressive, because we just want to help.
    The Heartland: Pedanty what?
    Written like someone who doesn't know the Midwest...

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    I’ve built and registered boats in NH, GA & WI. NH was at the town hall, GA the DNR came to you and in WI you go to the DNR. All pretty easy.
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    Saudi was the funniest to get registered, you need on board a, Saudi Flag, inflatable life raft, first aid kit, life jackets...

    Even on a surf board!!

    The Sailing club had one kit.. which was transferred from boat to boat, as the man watched.. and signed it off..
    Just an amateur bodging away..

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    I am beginning to understand why US citizens are against socialism - that is a system where someone in some part of the Government system wants to know what you own!
    That is what I am hearing above the US is already a socialist state.

    Here in NZ we have a social democracy (which is not socialism).
    All you need do is built the boat and launch it......
    The only restriction is that in some regional areas they want to see and be able to read the name on the side of it.
    Also below 6 metres LOA you need to wear life jackets.
    Boating and yacht clubs do inspect for safety equipment.

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    Boat life is one of the unregulated corners of our life. If the length is more than 12 m and the beam greater than 4 m we need to have the boat registered. Anything smaller than that is unregulated. No paper work, no inspections, no permits and no taxes. The authorities neither know nor care if your boat exists. We're a country with numerous lakes and a long coast line with several archipelagos, so owning a boat is very common. Still, there's no anarchy. In theory an 11.9 m boat with 2000 hp could be driven by an 11 year old without adults around, but it doesn't happen. There's no problem that needs solving with regulations.

    /Erik

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    There is now a name on the transon... John "B"... Anyone that has listened to the Beach Boy's will understand the name, considering that a Vacationer is a sloop...

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    The boat is now all legal. I only had to sacrifice a goat,(just kidding). It only took 45 minutes and I had the boat and the trailer licensed, and the title in my hand. A little more work on the boat, and it will be launch time...

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