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    ........enough rope has been given and the metaphorical noose has tightened around Trump's feeble throat as it bears the full weight of a dying political carcass of useless, dying blubber. All we will see from this point on is his writhing at the end of the rope as the remaining political life is sapped out of his decadent pathetically writhing political biomass.

    Not Trumpism but Trump himself is toast. He has defiled sacred ground and the vast majority of the population are turning in disgust. There is a mass realization and dismay reverberating through a shocked and traumatised body politic. The remaining few who are blinded by their own duplicity are caught, like rabbits in the spotlight, unsure of their next impulsive move while distancing themselves from Trump's magnum opus of January 6th.
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    Trump will be sidelined, but will never be held accountable for anything. Too many powerful people right up to the USSC and Murdoch woild be implicated or effected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Trump will be sidelined, but will never be held accountable for anything. Too many powerful people right up to the USSC and Murdoch woild be implicated or effected.
    I think you're wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    I think you're wrong.
    Yep, sometimes you have to let the wheels fall off, the pus burst out, the ...... are we there yet?
    Maybe this will be a catalyst for change, or maybe it will just stink up the room for a bit, like Sandy Hook.
    I don't have s lot of faith that the system will deal with this, ie smack it down. To many vested interests and snowflakes.

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    You are dreaming when you say Trumpism is dead.

    Did the South turn un-racist after the Civil War?

    Did German militarism die with the ouster of the Kaiser?

    Cults have a way of continuing by treating their founders as martyrs, don'cha know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    You are dreaming when you say Trumpism is dead.

    Did the South turn un-racist after the Civil War?

    Did German militarism die with the ouster of the Kaiser?

    Cults have a way of continuing by treating their founders as martyrs, don'cha know.
    Read my post! I made a distinction between Trump and Trumpism with this sentence; Not Trumpism but Trump himself is toast.
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    You are dreaming when you say Trumpism is dead.

    Did the South turn un-racist after the Civil War?

    Did German militarism die with the ouster of the Kaiser?

    Cults have a way of continuing by treating their founders as martyrs, don'cha know.
    Well, there is a town in NSW called Parkes...it has an annual Elvis Festival.
    without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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    Ah, I see I was too hasty in my reply. I ask your pardon.
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    She'll be right mate!
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

    "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
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    Amusement is half the point half the time!

    ......and I think i have a pretty good handle on how stupid a really large chunk of the American public is and how stupid the other larger chunk is capable of being!
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    "No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. The mistake that is made always runs the other way. Because the plain people are able to speak and understand, and even, in many cases, to read and write, it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more. This assumption is a folly." — H.L. Mencken, The Evening Sun, September 18, 1926
    "They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.

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    Several things can happen. Nothing is one of them. the 25th amendment is possible. Impeachment and removal is possible; when do the two new senators join the senate?

    I was kind of happy when I saw Nicolle Wallace today talking about how to fight the alternative facts crowd.
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ex_cid=rrpromo

    Still appalling how many support him.
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    All trump Pence signs, banners, and flags. Plus the Don't Thread on Me flags abound in SE Wisconsin. Taverns are full.
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    ....all Fred Z's posts are gone? Fred Z's done a runner on the discussion? What's up Fred z ?
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam View Post
    ....all Fred Z's posts are gone? Fred Z's done a runner on the discussion? What's up Fred z ?
    Weird. He's not banned. Can't imagine him deleting his posts on purpose. Did he say something rude and get a Scot shot across the bow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip-skiff View Post
    Weird. He's not banned. Can't imagine him deleting his posts on purpose. Did he say something rude and get a Scot shot across the bow?
    his status is "deleted member". Not sure I've seen that one before. And searching for him now suddenly shows that no such member exists.

    What'd he do to pi$$ of the Great ascot?or was it self-immolation?


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    If you scorch a dog turd over an open flame, does that make it toast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Carey View Post
    his status is "deleted member". Not sure I've seen that one before. And searching for him now suddenly shows that no such member exists.

    What'd he do to pi$$ of the Great ascot?or was it self-immolation?


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    And what posts are left seem to be in the "BYOB !!!" thread.

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/member.php?7594-Fred-Z

    This seems to be the last/only post in a thread other than that.

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...27#post6359327
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    Fred's good...

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    He does seem to have a history of this sort of thing ...

    This is back in 2012.

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...26-Sigh-Fred-Z

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Z View Post
    Geez, Louise folks. Chill. It's not complicated. I replied to Hallam's OP. Hallam disagreed and posted clarification. I replied and thanked Hallam for insulting my critical thinking ability, and said I no longer wished to partake of the discussion. Hallam said, "Fine by me." I said, "Likewise." and I deleted my posts. No mystery - I do it quite frequently.
    If there is a discussion, deleting comments that are a part the discussion creates a bit of a mess of the process. I do not think i was overly offensive in my comments but since you were insulted i have no problem with offering my apologies to you and will keep this in mind with future communications with you in the hope of fostering good communication and robust exchange of ideas.
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam
    If there is a discussion, deleting comments that are a part the discussion creates a bit of a mess of the process. I do not think i was overly offensive in my comments but since you were insulted i have no problem with offering my apologies to you and will keep this in mind with future communications with you in the hope of fostering good communication and robust exchange of ideas.
    Fred Z is well-known in the Bilge as being the original invisible man. He has always routinely deleted his posts. He has posted to the WBF thousands of times despite his current thread count amounting to only 30. FYI he is a good guy.
    "They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Fred Z is well-known in the Bilge as being the original invisible man. He has always routinely deleted his posts. He has posted to the WBF thousands of times despite his current thread count amounting to only 30. FYI he is a good guy.
    Twodot does the same,but on a different timescale, sometimes a shame.
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    speaking of him who should no longer be named, according to him,via CNN, "I called out the National Guard, I quelled the riot………….. But at least unlike a couple of our extreme RW politicians, he's not claiming it was an 'Antifa black ops." operation……………...

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    All good. Thanks for the explanation.
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

    "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
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    Nah, Republicans are too stupid and spineless to trash Trump.

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    Thrump's last instagram post on Jan 6th:





    Trump is Toast.
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

    "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
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    Misguided, thoughtless, gullible, people are part of every nation and half the US population loves or tolerates Trump. It might have changed a bit since Jan 6th. Half the population of Britain wanted Brexit Half didn't. It seems most the half who didn't were the educated thoughtful considerate broad minded type. A lot of the pro Brexiteers seemed to be, in retrospect the type who would think Trump's ok-
    There's a huge proportion of supporters of far right views in the Netherlands, France, Germany, , getting on for half the population I'd hazard a guess.
    Populist Nationalism.
    The left and left of centre politics are strong here in Portugal. There is a conservative right of course, Catholic, still thinking Salazar was a good guy, still yearning for the return of the Monarchy, but maybe 20% or less.
    Its all down to education. only 40 years ago youth were actively discouraged from further education. Leave school at 14 or even younger, go and work in the fields, wait for conscription, go and die in unwillable anti colonialist guerrilla wars for the benefit of the ruling rich elite who owned or controlled Mozambique , Angola, most of Portugal.
    Recipe for revolution.
    And even if Trump is toast, he appears to be the type who probably couldn't care less. Unless he ends up doing porridge.
    'Trumpism' though can only be mitigated by Education in it's broadest sense
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    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

    "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
    Bruce Cockburn

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    I wan'na see Trump in an orange suit. But first I wan'na see him resist arrest and ten be put in leg irons. Then I wan'na see him kicking and screaming on the floor in a tantrum resisting being taken to jail, Then I wan'na see two or three police take firm grips on his leg irons and drag his sorry a-- out to the paddy wagon, with Trump going "bumpity, bumpity, bump" down any stairs between the tantrum and the transportation.

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    What I can't understand: Has it dawned on any of the Trump supporters that he had the opportunity to pardon those who stormed the Capital, but CHOSE not to?

    Has it dawned on them that, in spite promising to do so, he never released his taxes, and/or that being under audit doesn't prevent one form doing so?

    Are they aware he cheated on all three of his wives? That he's LOST suits for discrimination, fraud, failing to pay contractors, and misuse of charity funds?

    If he WANTS to testify, why does he need a subpoena?
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    What I can't understand: Has it dawned on any of the Trump supporters that he had the opportunity to pardon those who stormed the Capital, but CHOSE not to?

    Has it dawned on them that, in spite promising to do so, he never released his taxes, and/or that being under audit doesn't prevent one form doing so?

    Are they aware he cheated on all three of his wives? That he's LOST suits for discrimination, fraud, failing to pay contractors, and misuse of charity funds?

    If he WANTS to testify, why does he need a subpoena?
    His supporters don’t KNOW any of that. Fox doesn’t tell them. Then they go to church and have all their lack of information confirmed by the other Fox watchers in the congregation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    His supporters don’t KNOW any of that. Fox doesn’t tell them. Then they go to church and have all their lack of information confirmed by the other Fox watchers in the congregation.
    They must know he did not pardon any of those who stormed the Capital. No?
    "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    They must know he did not pardon any of those who stormed the Capital. No?
    They probably don’t know any of them were convicted.

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