Pelosi reelected Speaker

[CWSmith]

Pelosi was reelected Speaker of the House by a narrow majority that broke along party lines (as far as I can tell).

Pick your favorite source. It's all over the internet.

I confess I would like to see some new blood, but we could do worse.

[Paul Pless]

So you don’t like Pelosi, who would you rather see there?

[Tom Montgomery]

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I think she has been an effective speaker. Can't please everybody.

[CWSmith]

So you don’t like Pelosi, who would you rather see there?

I honestly don't know. She is speaker because she is exceptional in raising money. I think she was too ineffective in providing a voice in opposition to Trump. She needed to be heard and she needed to be forceful. I don't think she was either. I'm not crazy about Schumer, either. I just think it's time for a change.

[Hugh Conway]

I honestly don't know. She is speaker because she is exceptional in raising money. I think she was too ineffective in providing a voice in opposition to Trump. She needed to be heard and she needed to be forceful. I don't think she was either. I'm not crazy about Schumer, either. I just think it's time for a change.

shes speaker because she’s good at politics and power

[CWSmith]

shes speaker because she’s good at politics and power

Do you think she handled the Trump impeachment well? I don't.

Do you think she had any sense with that ridiculous beauty parlor nonsense some months ago? She was tone deaf to do that.

People were losing their jobs and she was showing off the ice cream and chocolates in her fridge. Tone deaf?

The only politics and power she is good at are party politics. Outside the party, she is not effective.

[Rich Jones]

At close to 81, I hope there is someone in the wings with her skills.
It was reported on MSNBC this morning that this will be her last term as Speaker.
I don't know the source of that report or if the reporter was mistaken.

[paulf]

Do you think she handled the Trump impeachment well? I don't.

I think she did all that was possible with a bunch of weak Dems and a bunch of bought traitor Repubs.

The point of the spear gets the most abuse.

[David G]

I've noticed thru the years that the less someone knows about the facts and details of a situation, the more likely that their criticisms will be both ill-considered, and off-target.

[paulf]

I've noticed thru the years that the more someone knows about a situation, the more likely that their criticisms will be both ill-considered, and off-target.

Thru the years, ya right, you are a GURU.

[Corvida]

She's a weak public speaker, a horrible national face of the party, and the best of her leadership team on the national stage.

On a national level AOC is the most popular democrat in the house, but is obviously a long way from leadership. Which is fine, she's early in her career. What's sad is that the freshman nobody is able to steer more attention than the entire rest of the congressional leadership. I mean I dare anyone to listen to a Chuck Schumer speech and not yawn before the end, and he's the exciting one in leadership.

[David G]

Thru the years, ya right, you are a GURU.

I was thinking more... old. But sure, if you feel that way.

[Hugh Conway]

She's a weak public speaker, a horrible national face of the party, and the best of her leadership team on the national stage.

On a national level AOC is the most popular democrat in the house, but is obviously a long way from leadership. Which is fine, she's early in her career. What's sad is that the freshman nobody is able to steer more attention than the entire rest of the congressional leadership. I mean I dare anyone to listen to a Chuck Schumer speech and not yawn before the end, and he's the exciting one in leadership.

nobody gives a single crap what Mitch McConnell says in public ever and he’s the most powerful man in Congress.

[paulf]

I was thinking more... old. But sure, if you feel that way.

Gosh, how old are you?

[Garret]

I've noticed thru the years that the less someone knows about the facts and details of a situation, the more likely that their criticisms will be both ill-considered, and off-target.

So - that directed at anyone in particular?

If you believe Pelosi is the best we can do, god help us. Not that she's awful - just past her sell-by-date.

[Hugh Conway]

So - that directed at anyone in particular?

If you believe Pelosi is the best we can do, god help us. Not that she's awful - just past her sell-by-date.

Pelosi is the best available, but I wish there were better options.

[David G]

So - that directed at anyone in particular?

If you believe Pelosi is the best we can do, god help us. Not that she's awful - just past her sell-by-date.

The question has already been asked of those who would prefer someone else... who, exactly?

Because we all know... continuing to complain about something, without offering a solution, esp. after having been specificially asked...

is just whining.

And, I would add (see above), often ignorant, lazy, and sloppy whining.

Directed at anyone? Yes. At anyone who fits that description.

[CWSmith]

What's sad is that the freshman nobody is able to steer more attention than the entire rest of the congressional leadership.

I think that sums it up rather well.

[Garret]

Actually, I think my Rep Peter Welch could do a really good job of it.

[SMARTINSEN]

Someone that can bring the fire, that is what is needed, Katie Porter for Speaker of the House.

[David G]

I think that sums it up rather well.

OK... now I'm REALLY curious. I didn't get what he was saying in the first place, but you not only claim to, but are endorsing it?

What, exactly, DID he say there?

[Garret]

OK... now I'm REALLY curious. I didn't get what he was saying in the first place, but you not only claim to, but are endorsing it?

What, exactly, DID he say there?

Reading comprehension issues? Seemed pretty clear to me.

[David G]

Reading comprehension issues? Seemed pretty clear to me.

Clearly I had reading comprehension problems.

Did you also... or can you answer the question?

Yanno... paraphrase? <G>

[Garret]

Clearly I had reading comprehension problems.

Did you also... or can you answer the question?

Yanno... paraphrase? <G>

OK - are we back in 7th grade & parsing sentences?

What's sad is that the freshman nobody is able to steer more attention than the entire rest of the congressional leadership.

Freshman nobody = AOC maybe? Maybe not, but you've got an imagination. Steer more attention = would "garner" make you happier? Congressional Leadership = you're a bright guy, I bet you can figure that out. By all means let us know if you can't - we can start you on civics: there are 3 branches of government in the US. The legislative is made up of the senate and ______________________ [please fill in the blank]

[CWSmith]

OK - are we back in 7th grade & parsing sentences?

Freshman nobody = AOC maybe? Maybe not, but you've got an imagination. Steer more attention = would "garner" make you happier? Congressional Leadership = you're a bright guy, I bet you can figure that out. By all means let us know if you can't - we can start you on civics: there are 3 branches of government in the US. The legislative is made up of the senate and ______________________ [please fill in the blank]

Why is this so clear to the rest of us and so opaque to David?

Maybe we should reproduce the entire statement that I edited?

She's a weak public speaker, a horrible national face of the party, and the best of her leadership team on the national stage.

On a national level AOC is the most popular democrat in the house, but is obviously a long way from leadership. Which is fine, she's early in her career. What's sad is that the freshman nobody is able to steer more attention than the entire rest of the congressional leadership. I mean I dare anyone to listen to a Chuck Schumer speech and not yawn before the end, and he's the exciting one in leadership.

Yep, I think you nailed it, Garret. We both seem to read simple English in the same manner.

[Garret]

Maybe it's a right coast, wrong coast thing?

[David G]

OK - are we back in 7th grade & parsing sentences?


What's sad is that the freshman nobody is able to steer more attention than the entire rest of the congressional leadership.


Freshman nobody = AOC maybe? Maybe not, but you've got an imagination. Steer more attention = would "garner" make you happier? Congressional Leadership = you're a bright guy, I bet you can figure that out. By all means let us know if you can't - we can start you on civics: there are 3 branches of government in the US. The legislative is made up of the senate and ______________________ [please fill in the blank]

I'm not sure why all the snark. I asked an honest question. I clearly said I was the one who wasn't 'getting it'. I didn't blame anyone for my failure. I offered no snark. Just a request for clarification.

OK... now I'm REALLY curious. I didn't get what he was saying in the first place, but you not only claim to, but are endorsing it?

What, exactly, DID he say there?

I got it once you paraphrased it. I fell down when I missed 'freshman nobody' as a phrase. I thought 'nobody' was the start of a new sentence fragment.

But again... what about my query inspired all the snark?

[skuthorp]

The old guard will be defending themselves from AOC, probably one of the least bribable members of Congress' you can bet on that! But it does seem exceedingly strange that to be in a leadership position in the US you have to be over 70.

[WI-Tom]

Why is this so clear to the rest of us and so opaque to David?

I've asked myself that exact question many times, and still haven't found any answers!

Tom

[Garret]

I'm not sure why all the snark. I asked an honest question. I clearly said I was the one who wasn't 'getting it'. I didn't blame anyone for my failure. I offered no snark. Just a request for clarification.



I got it once you paraphrased it. I fell down when I missed 'freshman nobody' as a phrase. I thought 'nobody' was the start of a new sentence fragment.

But again... what about my query inspired all the snark?

Sorry - but sometimes you just bring it out in me.

I'm going to bed - so you're safe for a while.

[johnw]

You can't beat somebody with nobody, and nobody better has turned up.

[David G]

Sorry - but sometimes you just bring it out in me.

I'm going to bed - so you're safe for a while.

You can't go to bed yet. It appears that Pless just failed to understand what AOC said - over on the other thread. Who's gonna chastise and insult him for this transgression? You seem to have appointed yourself 'reading comprehension Nurse Ratchet'...

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...s-full-of-****

[Hugh Conway]

You can't beat somebody with nobody, and nobody better has turned up.

Nobody turned up this year, she beat somebody in 2018. For those looking frothing about Dem problems one of the few “mainstream Dems are th3 problem” present votes was Spanberger, source of the leak that had people frothing

[oznabrag]

You can't beat somebody with nobody, and nobody better has turned up.

[WI-Tom]

^^^ Nicely done!

Tom