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    I live 10 minutes from a fantastic launch at the mouth of a wide river. About one hours drive up the river is a wonderful little town with boat docks and a great selection of little eateries. It has now become a goal to be able to boat up the river, spend the day in town enjoying the dinners, scenic walks, and little shops, then cruise home. The water can be dead flat, or be choppy, and id like a boat that can handle 2 foot chop, ride smooth, be wide and deep ( my wife gets feels safer with high sided boats ), a shallow draft that is efficient on fuel, can run on a 40 hp or less, and works with plywood stitch and glue construction. Id also like to be able to fish from it and a possible small cabin incase we get caught in a rain. Size requirement isn't an issue, but id like to stay under 20 ft.

    A tall order, and obviously compromises must be made

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    Is that a one hour drive in a car? - How many miles by water?



    https://www.sailingcatamarans.com/in.../262-skoota-20
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    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Roughly 40 miles id guess?

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    Ben Garvey 19. You could add an 8" cockpit combing for increase height to the sides.

    http://www.dhylanboats.com/design/pl..._garvey_plans/

    https://www.woodenboatstore.com/prod...garvey-big-ben



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    Sam Devlin has his "Dipper" series, this one is 17'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post

    Sam Devlin has his "Dipper" series, this one is 17'.
    Ohhhh I LIKE the look of that

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    Ok, I love the look, but I want a shallower draft than 17 inches, and I'd prefer it to be able to go a little faster. Its an 80 mile round trip and while I enjoy the trip, I also don't want to be rushed while in town. Of course, the v bert gives overnight an option for when we are too tired or had too many libations to otherwise return that night....

    I will keep this one for consideration, I DO like it. I suppose its dep draft is my biggest problem with it, as I enjoy fishing skinny water.

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    Pelicano 18? 12" draft still too much?
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    12 is much better. Thats about as deep as I'd like to go though
    I'm looking into the pelicano now.

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    But but but:
    If I understand correctly, this is a 40 mile one-way trip, 80 R/T! Whats your timeline for an outing to there? If a week, OK, if a day, you're going to have to build, plan and allow for a lot of transit miles and hours. If the boat cruises well at 20k, youre two hours getting there, at planing speed, and the same home. Four hours of screaming outboard time doesnt sound good to me, but I'm not you. Think about the transit time, and experience, before you commit.
    Its hard to overstate how accustomed we are to covering lots of miles with engine power on land, but on water the miles are harder and longer, and cost more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post

    Pelicano 18? 12" draft still too much?
    Is that 12" the hull or does it include the outboard?
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    One of our favorite day trips when it's not great sailing weather is to head up the Sheepscott River to Wiscasset ME. It's about 10 miles. While I enjoy a power boat out on a lake, the trip up the river @ 7 knots or so (thus taking 1.5 hours) is delightful. You get to see wildlife of all sorts, see the details of the shoreline, & leave no wake to damage the banks.

    Seems to me that 40 miles each way means a bunch of time & pretty high speed - IOW little time to enjoy the trip.

    Of course it's different strokes for different folks (& so on & so on & scoobie...) - but I wonder how often you'd actually make this trip. And yes, I get that the dream is a big part of the fun!
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    I can put in at another ramp thats closer by half, I just have to drive a little further. I just found it on the maps a second ago, so im going to hop in the car and go check it out.

    I really like that outer banks 20. A lot. Im going to dig into that one a lot more.

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    80 miles banging around in a skiff....that's a long day.

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    For 12 draught, You'd need no deadrise, at least at the transom and a jet drive.

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    It sounds great, to be in touch with nature and water. To breath fresh air and have fun with the family, has not price, it is the best you can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hwyl View Post
    For 12 draught, You'd need no deadrise, at least at the transom and a jet drive.
    Or a hovercraft.
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Or a Rescue Minor...runs in 6 inches. Always loved that boat. Surely the most perfect yacht club rescue boat this side of a RIB.




    If you want to avoid the cost of the B and B kit and the double planked 4mm sides (probably worth it though to soften the edges)...I'd also look at Tad Roberts Berry point 20.





    The bigger 26 was built recently and looked fabulous. The 20 is newer, you might be the first build. Self draining cockpit I think and it's slightly beamier than the Outer Banks



    https://www.tadroberts.ca/services/s...g/berrypoint20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Pearson View Post
    ..I'd also look at Tad Roberts Berry point 20.





    The bigger 26 was built recently and looked fabulous. The 20 is newer, you might be the first build. Self draining cockpit I think and it's slightly beamier than the Outer Banks

    https://www.tadroberts.ca/services/s...g/berrypoint20
    Ed, Tad says on the plans "9 inch hull draft. You'd have to modify it with a tunnel a la Rescue minor

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    I'm with the group that says 2 hours each way open throttle will not be a pleasant experience. After two or three trips I expect you'll wonder what you were thinking.

    CMD has some boats that might fit the bill. If you should decide to slow down, there's the Redwing series.





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