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    Default There's no money in lobsters...

    John Risley, the son of a military police commander and then insurance broker, began as a real estate agent in Halifax, NS. During a slump in the real estate market, he and a friend started a business buying lobsters from local fishermen and selling them out of the back of a pickup truck in Bedford, a suburb of Halifax, in 1976. He did good. He named his company Clearwater Seafoods. He likes boats.

    This is his sailboat:




    This is his powerboat, that is recently been sold:




    He has ordered a new powerboat that will be delivered next year:




    There's no money in lobsters....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post

    he has ordered a new powerboat that will be delivered next year:




    there's no money in lobsters....
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    I feel his pain.

    Or I'd like to.

    Thoughts and prayers.
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    It's all about interior volume, toys, and go-anywhere capability, Bob. John is a nice guy, but he probably doesn't care much about whether you find his boat pretty. He would probably feel bad about your injured eyes, though - he's like that.
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    shoulda stuck to sailboats. . .

    Originally Posted by mmd
    he has ordered a new powerboat that will be delivered next year:


    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    He has both, Paul, but a sailboat like Meteor isn't the vehicle to go to Antarctica aboard. To quote John:

    “My first love is sailing, absolutely. Having said that, if you are going to spend a lot of time on the water, then you have to realize there are limits associated with sailing, especially when it comes to longer trips and the logistics that come with that.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    It's all about interior volume, toys, and go-anywhere capability, Bob. John is a nice guy, but he probably doesn't care much about whether you find his boat pretty. He would probably feel bad about your injured eyes, though - he's like that.
    No reason at all he should care about our, or anyone's, opinions. Nor do I care if he cares. My opinion remains the same... and worth precisely the same. And, being a budding Humanitarian... I celebrate his success. And likewise feel bad for him. For his taste in boat design.

    I hope we're not speaking ill of a design you did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    It's all about interior volume, toys, and go-anywhere capability, Bob. John is a nice guy, but he probably doesn't care much about whether you find his boat pretty. He would probably feel bad about your injured eyes, though - he's like that.
    (bold) I could understand a plumb bow for that and speed, but that extreme a reverse sheer/nosectomy I can only imagine is for forward visibility close-in.

    As I'm sure you are aware, a proper (clipper?) bow imparts not only beauty, but reserve bow buoyancy in big seas. The beautiful form has origins in time-test function. But of course I am preaching to the converted. At least I think. You haven't gone to the dark side, have you?
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    I tend to agree. I am not sure why, but the powerboat reminds me of a castle surrounded by a broad, deep moat. A fortress to bunker in, rather than a steed to take you forth into the world.

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    lots of reasons for that bow bob
    eliminates weight up high and forward for one
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    lots of reasons for that bow bob
    eliminates weight up high and forward for one
    Weight high, agreed. Forward... I like increased polar moment of inertia, it improves sea kindliness. But perhaps they are trading bow weight for more anchor and rode weight.

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    Default Re: There's no money in lobsters...

    Or perhaps they like the Dreadnought look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob (oh, THAT Bob) View Post
    I like increased polar moment of inertia, it improves sea kindliness.
    which, along with flare, can increase slamming
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George. View Post
    Or perhaps they like the Dreadnought look.
    needs a vestigial ram
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob (oh, THAT Bob) View Post
    Weight high, agreed. Forward... I like increased polar moment of inertia, it improves sea kindliness. But perhaps they are trading bow weight for more anchor and rode weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    lots of reasons for that bow bob
    eliminates weight up high and forward for one
    It works better in big lumpy seas. Makes more of a go anywhere any when boat.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Nick has it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    {Unprovoked, unwarranted, scurrilous aspersions}
    Hush now. You don't know that. And we're not supposed to say that part out loud, anyway. <G>

    Had a similar case in my hometown, at the mouth of the Columbia. A local kid. 'Fisherman' who never seemed to sell any fish. Yet he had a large, capacious, boat. The nicest trucks. A large spread outside of town. And lots of coke to spread around.

    He was eventually arrested and charged. He pled 'not guilty', but was sentenced to a few years in prison. He's been out for years, and started a well-capitalized construction company. Used his copious cash reserves to push competitors out of the niche he was interested in. And he now lives large.

    But not all success is corrupt.
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    Not all success is corrupt.
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    Nice boats.

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    Don't like the Moboat and people who understand money and business will get ahead... Price of lobster around here is about €40/kg, which clashes with the $2/lb in Maine , the last time I was there. Bit rich for us..
    Back in the 70's Lobster was an option, as cheap, so we had it when we felt like it. Not now, as fewer, so price reflecs demand. Same as fish in general.

    His sailing boat is a delight to see. Not sure I would like to own it unless I won the lottery, not likely, as I don't buy tickets. Odds are nearly the same, just if you don't buy a ticket, it garantees you don't win. Just glad he spends some of his dosh on nice objects (Not the mobo..)

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    A few years back I was luck enough to see Meteor in the flesh in Portofino, Italy. Absolutely breathtaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    It works better in big lumpy seas. Makes more of a go anywhere any when boat.
    I hope the engineering for all that glass on the lower deck is up to the torrent of water that go anywhen bow is going to enable!
    I like his old powerboat much more, aesthetically.

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    David G.: We don't agree on much, but I am pleased to see that we agree on this.

    Andrew 2: I like the classic lines of the earlier boat, too, but understand the reasoning for the style of the new one.

    epoxyboy: Yes, the portlights are properly engineered, probably to Lloyd's Rules. Lurssen is known for its robust engineering.


    Edit to remove comments regarding dispute with Ted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epoxyboy View Post
    I hope the engineering for all that glass on the lower deck is up to the torrent of water that go anywhen bow is going to enable!
    I like his old powerboat much more, aesthetically.

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    I noticed that tug has a lip on the bow to deflect sea spray whereas John Risley's new motor yacht does not.

    It looks like he's done a lot more than distribute lobsters.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Risley
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Ted: {fantastic but illustrative analogy}

    David G.: We don't agree on much, but I am pleased to see that we agree on this.

    Andrew 2: I like the classic lines of the earlier boat, too, but understand the reasoning for the style of the new one.

    epoxyboy: Yes, the portlights are properly engineered, probably to Lloyd's Rules. Lurssen is known for its robust engineering.
    WAIT!!!! I agreed with you? Oh, crapt! <G>
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    That is not a joke.

    I will ask you to remove that comparison particularly since you used my name with it.
    I have never asked scot to intervene but this is uncalled for.

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    Remove your post now.

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    I've noticed that sometimes shoes pinch when they're on the other foot.
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    Let's have scot decide.

    I have never summoned him. how do I do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    Let's have scot decide.

    I have never summoned him. how do I do it.
    Go to the 'offending' post.

    Look to the lower left.

    Press that black triangle.

    Write a brief explanation of your gripe.
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    thank you - i called it to the administrators attention.

    I may have written what MMD did not like but a did not deserve his horrible characterization using my name. I doubt you would put up with such comparsions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    That is not a joke.

    I will ask you to remove that comparison particularly since you used my name with it.
    I have never asked scot to intervene but this is uncalled for.
    You seem to think that you can cast unsubstantiated aspersions against people whom I know are not deserving of it, so I thought it only just that I show you what you are throwing about. Stings, doesn't it? Go ahead, mash the button - I'll accept whatever punishment that Scot deems necessary if it will illustrate just how rude, unwarranted, vicious attacks on others feels like.
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