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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    For what it is worth, there are liberals on TV saying that another Trump appointment to the Supreme Count is a done deal.

    I hope they are wrong.

    Going back to the GWBush administration, I remember saying, "People will stop voting against what is best for them when they have experienced enough pain." That moment seems never to come. If another Trump appointment results in killing universal health care, women's rights of all kinds, gay rights, and all the rest, I guess we all just need to continue suffering because so many voters who would vote liberal are just too lazy to get off their @ss and vote!
    I see no way of stopping it. They have no 'tools' at this point in time. The irony is RBG will be replaced by a woman who opposes all of RBG's ideals, but wouldn't be in a position she's in if not for RBG.
    How do we form a mutiny? Our new captain is navigating poorly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    if all of the day to day headlines are making you depressed, you might want to try some counseling. it doesn't sound healthy to stay fixated on things you have no control over.
    Even when those things have control over you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    Someone needs to file a lawsuit. They likely can't win it, but it may well delay this long enough. Maybe house can impeach Mitch.
    How do we form a mutiny? Our new captain is navigating poorly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durnik View Post
    "For what it is worth, there are liberals on TV saying that another Trump appointment to the Supreme Count is a done deal."


    fwiw, there is no liberal candidate. Now, get the DNC to stop pushing Rep Lite on us.. and you can plan on iDJ winning, again - again, because Dems have done their level best to alienate leftist voters. Don't blame the voters. blame the lack of real choice the 2 sides of the one American party offer.

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    Anyone who finds an excuse to not vote for Biden OWNS the re-election of Trump. Those who found an excuse to not vote for Hillary elected Trump. It's really that simple.
    How do we form a mutiny? Our new captain is navigating poorly.

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    I had a beautiful walk in the woods on a nice sunny day. That helped (except for the hip pain - but oh well).

    I actually had 20 minutes of not thinking about my country getting trashed. Nice break, but way too short. Rich's comments on what this means are spot on - IOW goodbye democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    Even when those things have control over you?
    And he errs is supposing we have no control over the ills of society.
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    Sorry you're having a bad day Norm. It can get overwhelming for sure, and I'm aware of your circumstances. The effect of quarantining, and not traveling beyond one's local area, can be like that.

    Regine has asked me before, about how bad it's getting out there. I tell her that in most of America, everything is fine. People are out, they are going to restaurants, they are out on the streets, at the grocery stores, and even the pubs. Sometimes you have to wear a mask, but other than that it's normal. Admittedly my experience the past few months has been in 'small town' America, places in Arizona, Wyoming, Colorado, and Oregon. A few of the towns have been tourist towns, and getting hotel reservations on the weekends can be tough. People are out there, enjoying life.

    Perhaps a road trip, inside your states borders, would help out?
    “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”― Mark Twain,


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    Not to pile on, Norman, but I fear that your country is hooped.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Norman, you have my sympathy. Now, get off your deck and do something physical! I have suffered from depression, and always found that getting moving helped. Cut the grass, polish your motorcycle, cook something for lunch.....anything, just get moving.
    Money may not buy happiness, but it can buy a boat that will pull right up next to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    Anyone who finds an excuse to not vote for Biden OWNS the re-election of Trump. Those who found an excuse to not vote for Hillary elected Trump. It's really that simple.
    Hah, yer a funny guy.

    If the DNC chooses a candidate voters don't vote for, it's they who 'own' that puppy. Voters only have one power, their vote. If they have no choice, well, then, there's no democracy - might as well be China. Oh, wait!


    Our democracy no longer represents the people. Here's how we fix it | Larry Lessig | TEDxMidAtlantic - YouTube

    .02%?

    Hmmmmm.....

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    There's always other options. Read that if the Senate race in Arizona is won by democrats, they can seat this senator right away because the way McCain's seat was filled. That would give us three votes, maybe there will be one republican senator that will give Mitch McConnell the thumbs down again . What is more important seat a judge or lose the Senate. Mitch don't like being minority leader we shall see.
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    It's debilitating to subject yourself first thing in the morning to the political porn of the "news" and associated commentaries. So much of it is presented in a way to arouse passions of a negative kind and often offers an intentionally exaggerated fantasy version of reality. It's a hard habit to break. Give yourself one for a while.

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    Every morning, I rise a lot earlier than my wife, I make a cup of coffee, and I go outside on the deck behind my living room, and read the news on my iPad. I read a huge cross section of opinion, from the far left, to the far right, and everything in between....

    ...and today, all I can say is that it has been the most depressing day in the realm of ‘news’ that I can remember.
    “Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over rocks from the basement of time. On some of those rocks are timeless raindrops. Under the rocks are the words, and some of the words are theirs."

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    I just warched a breakdown of past and present appointments to ALL branches of the Federal Courts since Carter. The whole damn setup is crooked, poitical appointments through and through. No wonder politics is broken, a fish rots from the head.

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    Cheer up Norman! Okay, there really are waaaay too many stupid people in the US (as elsewhere) but most people have at least half a functioning brain! 6 more weeks and you're rid of the FWIT, probably in a landslide. Savour the beautiful anticipation - you'll be a happy man on that day!!
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    The only options left would require the democrats to have a spine and work together. Mitch and Barr are both easily impeachable. Weather it works or not wouldn't matter so much as stopping the Senate until inauguration.

    I still say impeach the judges for bias. They signed pledges to rule in favor of ideologies not contained in the constitution or legal precedent. It's one thing to state support of a legal point of view, signed pledges go to a level that's essentially seditious.

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    Dont know if this guy is just gassing out of his fundament, but if it logically hangs together then RBG is but the vanguard.

    [HTML][https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/23/republicans-democrats-trump-mcconnell-ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-courtHTML]

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    Today was worse. Tomorrow will be worse than today. Bad things afoot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaver View Post
    Dont know if this guy is just gassing out of his fundament, but if it logically hangs together then RBG is but the vanguard.

    [HTML][https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/23/republicans-democrats-trump-mcconnell-ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-courtHTML]
    Interesting article.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/23/republicans-democrats-trump-mcconnell-ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court
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    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-supreme-court

    Hey, I just posted a clickable link!

    This interweeb thinghy might actually be useful someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaver View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-supreme-court

    Hey, I just posted a clickable link!

    This interweeb thinghy might actually be useful someday.
    I have read similar articles about what the Democrats can do.

    I remember many here saying that Obama and the Democrats only had 2 years in which they controlled the House, Senate, and Prudency. In those years they did little. Obama even neglected to change the HUD rule that eventually reached the Supreme Court. The one that hurt millions of poor black people. The one the Court found unconstitutional.

    I lack the belief that the Democrats will do much for the poor.

    Median household income in 2013 was $50K. Now it is well over $60K. A careful look shows those below the median gained the least. Lost ground to those above the median. I could make comments which groups are below and above the median, but that seems obvious. Their past treatment is well known. I expect those who have expressed opinions on economics will find what they want in the Democrats policies.
    Life is complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I just warched a breakdown of past and present appointments to ALL branches of the Federal Courts since Carter. The whole damn setup is crooked, poitical appointments through and through. No wonder politics is broken, a fish rots from the head.
    Yeah. The USA would do well to take judicial appointment recommendations out of the hands of elected officials with a political ax to grind. Confirmation, sure - but have a body of qualified professionals select the candidates.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Every morning, I rise a lot earlier than my wife, I make a cup of coffee, and I go outside on the deck behind my living room, and read the news on my iPad. I read a huge cross section of opinion, from the far left, to the far right, and everything in between....

    ...and today, all I can say is that it has been the most depressing day in the realm of ‘news’ that I can remember.

    Here's a fact. If you put your faith in man to do the right thing, you'll lead a depressed existance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Yeah. The USA would do well to take judicial appointment recommendations out of the hands of elected officials with a political ax to grind. Confirmation, sure - but have a body of qualified professionals select the candidates.
    Republicans have outsourced judge picking to a body of professionals they see as qualified, the Federalist Society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    Republicans have outsourced judge picking to a body of professionals they see as qualified, the Federalist Society.
    But the problem is that in the USA the Republicans (or the Democrats, or whomever) are able to do that. In Canada, the governing party could not do the equivalent, because judicial appointments are short-listed by a non-partisan committee of legal professionals.

    What are you doing about it?




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