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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    And now we have made off to the greener pastures of Kerikeri after casting off the tow to our kids....
    May be back north again in a few years once the now 15 year old (late starter me) son has matured into a completely self supporting specimen (I'm confident it will happen)

    The job offer from Peter is in a state of perpetuity, I hope that never turns into a state of lost opportunity... the knees are getting creaky
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    Well, after drifting off the thread topic into woodenboatland for a bit, the time has come to scale it back to the small stuff..literally.

    The rudder cassette got a paint job...and I think I will change the colour to the Dutch white.

    IMG-8111.jpgIMG-8117.jpgIMG-8109.jpg

    Looked at it from various angles, imagining the hull the same colour with a Dutch white sheer strake, decks the same white but...well...I'll try the Dutch white and compare photos.
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    Lovely thread drift and beautifull pictures.
    I ve been off to a little island in the Med for a few days.
    Most boats there were Ribs and grp powerboats.
    In my eyes that color on the cassette would be a blast on the hull.
    Good progress mate!

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    I’ve been enjoying the thread drift as well, but always nice to see progress on this dingh’ (though I must admit that the sage green on the rudder looks a bit more like a primer in that situation......)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max F View Post
    Lovely thread drift and beautifull pictures.
    I ve been off to a little island in the Med for a few days.
    Most boats there were Ribs and grp powerboats.
    In my eyes that color on the cassette would be a blast on the hull.
    Good progress mate!
    Cheers
    Max
    I hope you are going to share a few photos of this little island in the Med there, Max.
    Some images of sunny skies and azure waters would make a nice change from what is happening locally at the moment.
    Hope you had a great trip you lucky lucky man.

    Speaking of envy, it was always my intention to paint the hull green. I thought the cassette would be an extention of that but it's not really spinning my wheels to be fair.
    Going with the gut feeling now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    I’ve been enjoying the thread drift as well, but always nice to see progress on this dingh’ (though I must admit that the sage green on the rudder looks a bit more like a primer in that situation......)
    Yeah, I agree with you there, Greg.
    The i phone photos don't really show the true shade of the green in that light but it doesn't matter now because it's all going to change.

    Glad you and Max have enjoyed the thread drift.
    I did.

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    Minor thread drift.
    Checked on Janet today after the latest southerly storm had gone through, a little rainwater in the bilge but not much.
    Now eight months after the stem repairs, launching and a number of decent sailing sessions, the only tell tale sign of the work done was the expected squeeze from the new putty.
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    Will deal with that when next on the hard.
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    Gut feeling is the way to go!
    Those pictures wouldn´t be wooden boat related stuff.
    I´ll put some pictures in my flickr account the next days to share.
    I just thought yesterday that autumn is coming while summer approaches at your shores.
    Last wednesday regatta for this year today.

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    It is our Napier Sailing Club open day this Saturday, Max.
    Spring is here, the days are getting longer and yesterday we had our coldest snap of the year with snow down to 600 metres...which is low for us.

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    Like Alex, I'm speechless. Very impressive work. Thanks for showing us.
    BTW, it's good to put a face on you, Mike, with Maynard and Ben. I thought for a moment that you were Steve Stone, but not so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanMilne View Post
    Like Alex, I'm speechless. Very impressive work. Thanks for showing us.
    BTW, it's good to put a face on you, Mike, with Maynard and Ben. I thought for a moment that you were Steve Stone, but not so.
    Cheers,
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    Thanks Ian ,I will pass the compliments on to Peter.

    And yes, that's me, slightly younger and less crusty than now

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    Painted the final top coat onto the upper ring frame of the dagger board case.
    Contrasts nicely with the varnished timber.
    IMG-8136.jpgIMG-8147.jpg

    The first coat of white went on the cassette as well.
    I like the look of this far more than the green.
    Starting to rethink the hull colour scheme now.
    White hull, green sheer strake.
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    I'm with you, Mike, I like the white much better. Sometimes you just have to see on there to get a real judgement as to how it's going to look. '

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    Default Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

    Looks great! I love the white and varnished wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenStocker View Post
    I'm with you, Mike, I like the white much better. Sometimes you just have to see on there to get a real judgement as to how it's going to look. '

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    I placed the cassette on the transom this morning, to do just that, Ken.
    Much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerwagon View Post
    Looks great! I love the white and varnished wood.
    That contrast of white and varnished wood is an all time classic look that just never gets old.
    A coat or two of each still to go.

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    that’s oodles better!
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    White hull and (darkish, not really dark?) green sheerstrake sounds good. The cassette and centrecase look - well, shiny! What all the others said - the white looks much better on the cassette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1902 View Post
    Painted the final top coat onto the upper ring frame of the dagger board case.
    Contrasts nicely with the varnished timber.
    IMG-8136.jpgIMG-8147.jpg

    The first coat of white went on the cassette as well.
    I like the look of this far more than the green.
    Starting to rethink the hull colour scheme now.
    White hull, green sheer strake.

    Crikey!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1N View Post
    White hull and (darkish, not really dark?) green sheerstrake sounds good. The cassette and centrecase look - well, shiny! What all the others said - the white looks much better on the cassette.

    Cheers,
    Alex.
    The sheer strake will be the same colour green as the sole boards...if I go that way.
    The DB case and cassette are shiny and very pleased I am with that too. The DB case is finished but the cassette will require one more coat.
    There seems to be a pattern to my paintwork. The first top coat goes on great but is always a little thin, lacks depth, so another coat goes on which is never as good as the first, missed spots, runs etc.
    So it's rub down time and paint again...happens every time. All works out in the end though and has a decent coating of enamel to boot.

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    Crikey!
    I know, right!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    that’s oodles better!
    Glad you like it, Greg.
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    Went out to the workshop this morning with the intention of prepping the inside of the hull for more paint and varnish.
    As I was about to remove the tiller, the realisation that the tiller extension had not been completed due to the lack of a universal coupling...irked me.
    I have a mixture of brass and bronze bits n pieces that have been collected over the years, so surely I could create something.
    So I made one out of an old bronze bathroom towel rail support, part of a window stay and a small length of 3/8 bronze rod.

    IMG-8163 (2).jpg
    Attachment 118819

    The hole in the head of the towel rail support was 3/8", so the rod was the perfect diameter to make a grub screw.
    I drilled and tapped a thread matching that of the bronze rod .3/8 Whitworth.
    The rod was then cut and shaped to fit and a slot added.

    IMG-8157.jpgIMG-8158.jpgIMG-8159.jpg

    The hole in the window stay tab was enlarged to 3/8.
    A slot was cut vertically in the towel rail support matching the thickness of the tab.
    A nut was made and threaded 5/16W to match the stem thread.

    IMG-8166.jpg

    The window stay tubing has an internal thread. This tubing will be epoxied into the end of the tiller extension, this can then be screwed on and off.
    The partly threaded stem fits snugly into that smaller tube which has now been epoxied into the tiller handle.
    Last edited by Mike1902; 09-11-2022 at 05:30 AM.
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    Tiller universal continued...
    A 2mm hole was drilled through the nut and stem and a small copper nail was pushed through to lock the nut.
    This will be trimmed when permanently installed.

    IMG-8174.jpgIMG-8170.jpgIMG-8176.jpg

    The diameter of the base was reduced and the leather washer discarded. The tubing sits slightly proud of the timber and the base sits on that.
    The nut sits loose underneath which allows the stem to spin freely.
    Well that saved me a penny or two, good fun, enjoyed that.

    I am now shaping up the tiller extension from a single length of Kauri.
    The overall finished length will be 700mm (2' 3 1/2").


    IMG-8177.jpg

    It may be a little difficult to see but I'm using a batten to draw a taper line at each end of the extension.
    This will be done on all four sides then shaped on the horizontal belt sander. .
    The tubing for the universal will be glued in at one end and the tiller extension handle will be peg scarfed to the other end.

    Speaking of making something from bits and pieces, I made this wind indicator for Janet from brass tubing, copper sheet ,silver welding rod and a big copper nail, all soldered together.

    FullSizeRender (14).jpg

    It is balanced which gives it a sensitive response to the wind direction.
    To get it balanced , the copper tail was trimmed back until it was.
    Still up there and still working after 7 years.
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    Could someone please let me know if the photo, known as attachment 118819, in post #861 came through.
    Something odd going on there.

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    Okay?

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    I’m getting an ‘invalid attachment’ error on the ‘Attachment 118819’ link here…
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    Worked fine on this end.
    I am always impressed by(read jealous of)people that can fabricate parts with metal. Never have taken the time to learn those skills, but it sure gives you the flexibility to fashion exactly what you envision. On the other hand I guess there's a certain amount of creativity that goes into making what you need out of store-bought pieces. But in any case, nicey done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max F View Post
    Okay?
    All good thanks, Max.
    The gremlins are about.
    Cheers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1N View Post
    I’m getting an ‘invalid attachment’ error on the ‘Attachment 118819’ link here…
    Thanks Alex.
    Strange days indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by KenStocker View Post
    Worked fine on this end.
    I am always impressed by(read jealous of)people that can fabricate parts with metal. Never have taken the time to learn those skills, but it sure gives you the flexibility to fashion exactly what you envision. On the other hand I guess there's a certain amount of creativity that goes into making what you need out of store-bought pieces. But in any case, nicey done!
    Ken
    Thanks Ken.
    There was a time when I had access to lathes, various welders and other fabricating equipment.
    I've had thoughts about an oxy/acetylene set up for bronze, brass and copper work but the gas bottle rental is astronomical and the use would be irregular.
    There are small portable kits available with disposable bottles. which could be an option.

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    What was actually supposed to be in the ‘Attachment 118819’ photo - was it the photo of components that Max quoted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1N View Post
    What was actually supposed to be in the ‘Attachment 118819’ photo - was it the photo of components that Max quoted?
    Yes, that is correct, Alex.
    Some people got the image, some did not.
    I don't know how it all works but that photo had a mind of it's own.

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    Thanks Mike. I thought that I was going madder than usual! Some forum software hiccup by the sounds of things.
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    Ditto to what KenStocker said, Mike. What metalwork I've done has always been a bit of a struggle, but satisfying when it worked.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanMilne View Post
    Ditto to what KenStocker said, Mike. What metalwork I've done has always been a bit of a struggle, but satisfying when it worked.
    Cheers,
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    Hi Ian.
    As you already know, having the tools for the job certainly makes for a more pleasant time of it.
    Recently mentioned in another thread, there are some nice multifunctional welders out there which would broaden the production capabilities a bit, add a few strings to the bow. Tempted.
    Cheers,
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    Seven days later, only five layers on

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    The lads, getting their coats on, a couple more should do it.

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    Same with the tiller extension.
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    Looking great Mike!
    You could put a spring clip on your tiller extension so it would be easily removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Looking great Mike!
    You could put a spring clip on your tiller extension so it would be easily removed.
    Spot on Rick.
    I was considering using one of these R clips.
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