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    Default My Father-in-law gave me some planes.

    Some internet sleuthing showed them to be from the late 19th century I think.
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    The blades sharped up nice. Their kind of grimy. Any suggestions for cleaning. I’m planning to use them.
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    Nice! I wouldn’t clean them. Just wipe off.

    You can call it a sympathetic restoration.

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    Very nice. Bedrock is the top of the line Stanley bench plane.

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    Nice! I have an old #7 and #5 that need the totes replaced. Fortunately Lee Valley has patterns that can be downloaded for free,

    https://assets.leevalley.com/Origina...ote-c-06-e.pdf

    I just need to stir my lazy duff into doing something. The planes are usable the way they are.

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    So no solvents? Some of this grime looks original
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    Seek out "Rex Kreuger" on youtube - fine stuff on stanley planes.
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    The keyhole rather than the kidney shaped hole in the cap iron is old. Stanley changed to the kidney shape as the keyhole would slip and let go.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    You have a nice,honest older plane.Fiddling with it cosmetically is a bit like the Hollywood actresses that have one cosmetic procedure too many.

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    Naptha will cut the oily greasy grime without harming any of the wood finish, enamel, nor patina. If there's any rust, a bit of scotch-bright pad will probably take care of it. Once everything is clean you can give the metal parts a coat or two of good paste wax. Keep the wax off the sole if you're one of those who think it will transfer to the wood being worked. I sometimes wax mine. Especially the big ones.

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    The early Bed Rock without the squared off sides is pretty rare these days.
    It is lighter than the newer (1920?) versions. Assume it has two adjusting screws to set the frog?
    Hoard that, hide it, and use it, it is beauty

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    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Nice planes. That broken tote looks like it might be a replacement anyways. Iíve been tempted to just epoxy on a piece flush, shape, then spray paint it black.

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    Doesn't look like the right tote, all mine are rosewood

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    Nice planes. That broken tote looks like it might be a replacement anyways. I’ve been tempted to just epoxy on a piece flush, shape, then spray paint it black.
    Not spray paint, black wood dye, then shellac. You could mix the shellac with lamp black for depth of colour.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    Nice planes. That broken tote looks like it might be a replacement anyways. I’ve been tempted to just epoxy on a piece flush, shape, then spray paint it black.
    ive got some ash left over from a skin-on-frame-snow-shoe-tiller project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Not spray paint, black wood dye, then shellac. You could mix the shellac with lamp black for depth of colour.
    I’m not sure what wood CK17s tote is, the Stanley’s with sheered off horns I’m trying to fix are rosewood (as are most vintage Stanley totes I’ve encountered) and th3 idea was to preserve the looks of the existing rosewood without having a glaring material mismatch for the replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    I’m not sure what wood CK17s tote is, the Stanley’s with sheered off horns I’m trying to fix are rosewood (as are most vintage Stanley totes I’ve encountered) and th3 idea was to preserve the looks of the existing rosewood without having a glaring material mismatch for the replacement.
    Probably beech, as it is a light colour. Plane makers went over to beech when rosewood started to become scarce and expensive. They were finished with thick dark red lacquer over red wood dye.
    Used rosewood Stanley totes are available on T web if you search.

    You confuse me, Which repair are you suggesting black spray paint for?
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    So why is this down here? I wouldn't have seen it if not for the 'redirect'.

    Yes, nice planes. The totes aren't hard to fix or make.

    Cherry works nicely too.









    And some spares.


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    About 40 years ago, I saw a Stanley plane in a thrift store. I don't remember what I paid for it, but am sure it was under $20. For at least 25 years, that was the only plane that I owned. It was also at least 25 years before I discovered that No. 2 Stanleys are not very common. It seems to date from about the 1920s. I can't find a patent date on it anywhere. The rosewood tote had been broken and glued back together when I got it. You can both see and feel the glue joint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedL View Post
    Nice augers.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy W View Post
    About 40 years ago, I saw a Stanley plane in a thrift store. I don't remember what I paid for it, but am sure it was under $20. For at least 25 years, that was the only plane that I owned. It was also at least 25 years before I discovered that No. 2 Stanleys are not very common. It seems to date from about the 1920s. I can't find a patent date on it anywhere. The rosewood tote had been broken and glued back together when I got it. You can both see and feel the glue joint.
    #2 is a favorite, for sure!
    My go to planes are a #2 and a #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Nice augers.

    Thanks Nick. They are all barefoot. I have some others, and a good size one for boring prop shaft holes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Probably beech, as it is a light colour. Plane makers went over to beech when rosewood started to become scarce and expensive. They were finished with thick dark red lacquer over red wood dye.
    Used rosewood Stanley totes are available on T web if you search.

    You confuse me, Which repair are you suggesting black spray paint for?
    glue on new piece. Shape. Mask off replaced area & enough of tote to make pleasing black spray painted end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedL View Post
    Thanks Nick. They are all barefoot. I have some others, and a good size one for boring prop shaft holes too.
    I don't have l'Hommedieu, but do have some shipwrights pod augers, bullnose in small sizes and large and small Scotch and gedge.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    glue on new piece. Shape. Mask off replaced area & enough of tote to make pleasing black spray painted end.
    OK why black paint? Only the latest plastic totes were moulded from black plastic.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CK 17 View Post
    The blades sharped up nice. Their kind of grimy. Any suggestions for cleaning. I’m planning to use them.
    I agree you have a bedrock "round side" plane - which puts it in the older range - they were manufactured from about 1895 through he end of WW2. They had two valuable features. The frog and base were machined where they joined for solid contact and there were attached with pins and a set screw which allowed for more fine adjustments to the frog without removing the cap and iron.


    Based on the round sides and the cap it looks to be 1911 or earlier. Bearing in mind that sometimes parts get cobbled together from an number of other planes which complicates things.
    This web site is generally accepted as the definitive place to go to identify the age of you Stanley Bedrock: https://www.antique-used-tools.com/brtypes.htm

    Assuming everything is original, just lap the bottom, sharpen the iron, tune it and you are set to go - great planes! I have a full set from a 602-608

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatbum View Post
    I agree you have a bedrock "round side" plane - which puts it in the older range - they were manufactured from about 1895 through he end of WW2. They had two valuable features. The frog and base were machined where they joined for solid contact and there were attached with pins and a set screw which allowed for more fine adjustments to the frog without removing the cap and iron.


    Based on the round sides and the cap it looks to be 1911 or earlier. Bearing in mind that sometimes parts get cobbled together from an number of other planes which complicates things.
    This web site is generally accepted as the definitive place to go to identify the age of you Stanley Bedrock: https://www.antique-used-tools.com/brtypes.htm

    Assuming everything is original, just lap the bottom, sharpen the iron, tune it and you are set to go - great planes! I have a full set from a 602-608
    When you lap the sole, put iron and lever cap in with the iron backed out. That way the spring tension of the lever cap will be as it will be when in use.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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