The Jealousy. A very slow TS16

[Larks]

Looking at the attachments to the base of the mast I am starting to realise that I probably should have put a mast base plate under the mast base for attachments points for the Cunningham.

In lieue of taking it apart (amd maybe needing bigger bolts) could I use something like this on the attachment at the base of the mast where the Vang is gpinf?

Thay way the Cunningham and the vang could be all unclipped at once when lowering the mast.

It is designed for climbing but I found a stainless one that says it can take 43kn (4300kg approx)


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See post 149. You don’t seem to quite get the KISS principle ....

[hereselmo1]

Just trying to keep it neat (and easy).

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[Willywaw]

Looking at the attachments to the base of the mast I am starting to realise that I probably should have put a mast base plate under the mast base for attachments points for the Cunningham.

In lieue of taking it apart (amd maybe needing bigger bolts) could I use something like this on the attachment at the base of the mast where the Vang is gpinf?

Thay way the Cunningham and the vang could be all unclipped at once when lowering the mast.

It is designed for climbing but I found a stainless one that says it can take 43kn (4300kg approx)


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You've bolted the mast step down? Eeeek!

Clip your vang to the maststep via a bow shackle.

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Put one of these through the hole.

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Unrigging...unclip the vang from the boom and push the vang to one side so that lowered mast can't crush the blocks.

Cunningham...clip the bottom to that saddle just below the gooseneck track.

[Willywaw]

Photos as promised...
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[Willywaw]

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And if you pick the wrong clips for your forestay...

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[hereselmo1]

You've bolted the mast step down? Eeeek!

Clip your vang to the maststep via a bow shackle.

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Put one of these through the hole.

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Unrigging...unclip the vang from the boom and push the vang to one side so that lowered mast can't crush the blocks.

Cunningham...clip the bottom to that saddle just below the gooseneck track.

Yeah I saw arguments for both bolts and screws with the base. I went with bolts. Hope I don't regret it 😬😬😬

Yeah that makes sense with the base and the saddle.

One question though. Why would you use the saddle rather than the bail below it?

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[hereselmo1]

Unrigging...unclip the vang from the boom and push the vang to one side so that lowered mast can't crush the blocks.

We've already put a nice dent in the cabin top doing this once

That's a big part of why I wanted it to just be one clip that could be taken off together.



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[hereselmo1]

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Thank you

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[Larks]

Elmo do you plan on racing this boat?

[hereselmo1]

Elmo do you plan on racing this boat?

No it's just for cruising.

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[Larks]

No it's just for cruising.

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Then perhaps you might stop worrying so much about try to rig the boat to withstand the pressures of racing. You have two perfectly fine boom vang points on the boom and base of the mast - I’m struggling to understand why you’re not wanting to use what you already have...????

And to be perfectly honest more often than not I never bothered with a vang when I was just messing around in the Hartley anyway. It sails as good as you can want it to for cruising without it and. You essentially use the vang to flatten the sail with the aim of increasing speed - if you’re not racing you’ll probably give up on fitting it when you rig up anyway. It’s useful for holding the boom down if you’re running downwind but not essential.

I’m not saying don’t bother setting it up but again - KISS!!! KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID (and cheap). If you set it up and keep it simple using what you have and use a couple of basic shackles to fit it, especially while you are learning, you can have a play with it to understand what it does and if it actually makes any difference to performance with the sails that you have.

[hereselmo1]

Then perhaps you might stop worrying so much about try to rig the boat to withstand the pressures of racing. You have two perfectly fine boom vang points on the boom and base of the mast - I’m struggling to understand why you’re not wanting to use what you already have...????

And to be perfectly honest more often than not I never bothered with a vang when I was just messing around in the Hartley anyway. It sails as good as you can want it to for cruising without it and. You essentially use the vang to flatten the sail with the aim of increasing speed - if you’re not racing you’ll probably give up on fitting it when you rig up anyway. It’s useful for holding the boom down if you’re running downwind but not essential.

I’m not saying don’t bother setting it up but again - KISS!!! KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID (and cheap). If you set it up and keep it simple using what you have and use a couple of basic shackles to fit it, especially while you are learning, you can have a play with it to understand what it does and if it actually makes any difference to performance with the sails that you have.

Yeah OK.

I think of got a set up in happy with now.

And yes I wasn't sure how vital (or not) it was for cruising.

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[Willywaw]

Elmo, we had our Hartley for 5 years and in a year we would typically be on the water around 35 days...racing, day sailing and fishing.
I sincerely hope that you get as much enjoyment out of your boat as we got out of ours...you made a good choice in the TS16. I wish you all the best :-)

[hereselmo1]

Elmo, we had our Hartley for 5 years and in a year we would typically be on the water around 35 days...racing, day sailing and fishing.
I sincerely hope that you get as much enjoyment out of your boat as we got out of ours...you made a good choice in the TS16. I wish you all the best :-)

Thanks mate me too.

I am encpuraged by how excited my son is now about sailing since we did the training course at the Cruising Yacht Club.

P.s. we chose the Hartley without knowing much about it because it was the closest design to the fishing boat my Grandpa (who I never really knew) built in Ceduna.

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