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    Default Mitch McConnell is increasingly vulnerable in Kentucky, thank God.

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    The latest poll shows Amy McGrath with a slight lead over Mitch McConnell in the Kentucky U.S. Senate race.

    Democratic senatorial candidate Amy McGrath appears to have a very narrow lead over Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in Kentucky's race, according to a recent poll.

    The polling, which was conducted by RMG Group, shows McGrath, a former Marine fighter pilot, with the support of 41 percent of voters, while McConnell is backed by 40 percent. However, the polling also showed that when voters are informed that McGrath supports congressional term limits while McConnell does not, her lead over the Republican jumps significantly.

    With the candidates' positions on term limits factored in, McGrath was backed by 45 percent of respondents, while McConnell was supported by just 30 percent. But 17 percent of those surveyed were still undecided, and 8 percent said they'd vote for a different candidate.

    "What this shows is that after 35 years of Mitch McConnell's partisanship and dysfunction, Kentuckians are ready for change. Lieutenant Colonel Amy McGrath believes in ending lifelong careers in the Senate and strongly supports a limit of two terms. Mitch McConnell has proven that being in office for decades has led to the politics of destruction and the Washington, D.C., swamp that everyone hates," Terry Sebastian, McGrath's senior communications strategist, told Newsweek in a statement.

    Newsweek reached out to press representatives for McConnell for comment but did not hear back before publication.

    https://www.newsweek.com/amy-mcgrath...-shows-1509691
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    But now Bernie Sanders and AOC are backing Amy's competition (Booker) in the primary. I'll look for the link.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...gainst-mcgrath
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    From your lips...

    My Aunt & Uncle owned a construction company (earth moving) in KY for many years. Always voted R. Now the kids have it, and they've always been R voters also. Until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll
    But now Bernie Sanders and AOC are backing Amy's competition (Booker) in the primary. I'll look for the link.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...gainst-mcgrath
    McConnell paints McGrath as an extreme liberal. But the fact of the matter is that she is a moderate Democrat who is obviously not liberal enough to suit Bernie Sanders and AOC.

    The truth of the matter is that a U.S. Senate candidate liberal enough to satisfy Sanders and AOC would be unelectable in Kentucky.
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    Default Re: Mitch McConnell is increasingly vulnerable in Kentucky, thank God.

    Send her money! I did. McConnell is a major part of the problem in this country.

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    Default Re: Mitch McConnell is increasingly vulnerable in Kentucky, thank God.

    I gave her $100. Ditch Mitch.

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    The campaign manager for the McConnell Senate Committee wrote an opinion piece that was published by the Courier-Journal about 3 hours ago: Mitch McConnell is indispensable for Kentucky and should be rehired in the fall.

    Mitch's campaign manager claims that "our homegrown majority leader" leads in times of crisis and brings "resources back to the Bluegrass."

    I disagree about Mitch's leadership qualities. But I will not dispute that Mitch has spent 30 years effectively delivering the pork to Kentucky.
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    Mitch's campaign manager claims that "our homegrown majority leader" leads in times of crisis and brings "resources back to the Bluegrass."

    So, 30 years of being on the receiving end of a welfare state and your citizens still have among the worst poverty/healthcare/education/early child deaths etc. Mitch has stolen this money from northern states for the profits of a few that contribute to his campaign. Really, how's that working for the average Joe in Kentucky? Maybe some extra dollars to the coal kings will get you out of that mess, or probably not. Mitch has to go for the sake of Kentucky as well as for the rest of us.

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    Preach it, brother!
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    I would be mighty bluidy happy if the good voters of Kentucky kicked Mitch M. to the curb. A whole hell of a lot more would get done in Washington without him.

    He lost me years ago, with withholding hearings on Obama's last Supreme Court nominee, 9 months before Obama's term was up.

    No. That was gross politics played to circumvent a legitimate constitutional process.

    I hope he loses by a massive landslide.

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    There will be no landslide in Kentucky. It will be a close result no matter who wins the election. Too many Kentuckians would rather vote for Satan rather than for ANY Democrat.

    And that is why sending your financial support to Amy McGrath is so important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan H View Post
    I would be mighty bluidy happy if the good voters of Kentucky kicked Mitch M. to the curb. A whole hell of a lot more would get done in Washington without him.

    He lost me years ago, with withholding hearings on Obama's last Supreme Court nominee, 9 months before Obama's term was up.

    No. That was gross politics played to circumvent a legitimate constitutional process.

    I hope he loses by a massive landslide.
    The word for that is 'sedition'.

    When perpetrated by someone sworn to uphold the Constitution, it's called 'treason'.
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    There seems to be several headlines suddenly now about Charles Booker being the contender, not Amy McGrath. This is confusing. I’ve donated a few times to McGrath and now we are suppose to abandon her? And if what Tom says is true, that Booker is too progressive to have a chance in Kentucky, why the hell are Sanders and AOC muddying the waters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll
    And if what Tom says is true, that Booker is too progressive to have a chance in Kentucky, why the hell are Sanders and AOC muddying the waters?
    Because ideologues on the left share an attribute with ideologues on the right: both are divorced from political reality. Both would rather lose while remaining ideologically pure (by their lights) than win while compromising.

    The stakes in 2020 are too high to countenance such petty nonsense.
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    Itís evidently the time honored Democratic tradition of divide and be conquered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Madison View Post
    Send her money! I did. McConnell is a major part of the problem in this country.
    I’ve sent her money a couple of times. So far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    There seems to be several headlines suddenly now about Charles Booker being the contender, not Amy McGrath. This is confusing. I’ve donated a few times to McGrath and now we are suppose to abandon her? And if what Tom says is true, that Booker is too progressive to have a chance in Kentucky, why the hell are Sanders and AOC muddying the waters?
    Because Bernie is a top-tier spoiler, determined to rip defeat from the jaws of victory.

    I'm beginning not to like him much, and I think AOC needs to get the heck away from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
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    Mitch's campaign manager claims that "our homegrown majority leader" leads in times of crisis and brings "resources back to the Bluegrass."

    So, 30 years of being on the receiving end of a welfare state and your citizens still have among the worst poverty/healthcare/education/early child deaths etc. Mitch has stolen this money from northern states for the profits of a few that contribute to his campaign. Really, how's that working for the average Joe in Kentucky? Maybe some extra dollars to the coal kings will get you out of that mess, or probably not. Mitch has to go for the sake of Kentucky as well as for the rest of us.
    Hard to hide the truth of a statement like this. Of course practiced liars will find a way that satisfies most of their followers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Because ideologues on the left share an attribute with ideologues on the right: both are divorced from political reality. Both would rather lose while remaining ideologically pure (by their lights) than win while compromising.

    The stakes in 2020 are too high to countenance such petty nonsense.

    Amen, Brother Thomas!
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    Default Re: Mitch McConnell is increasingly vulnerable in Kentucky, thank God.

    Charles Booker is in the race and he should ( I think ) have the backing of the people. https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/edi...243084106.html

    https://bookerforkentucky.com/ A Genuine Contest Just Broke Out for the Democratic Nomination in Kentucky
    https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...harles-booker/

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    Default Re: Mitch McConnell is increasingly vulnerable in Kentucky, thank God.

    Interesting to see some of the last few posters--supporters of "liberal democracy" and all that--openly advocating for shutting down the democratic process as represented by the party primary.

    Apparently these days, "liberal democracy" means "only the annointed can run in elections."

    To some people, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    It is tough nut to crack that people who are dead set against socialism...routinely vote for socialism.
    they vote for kleptocracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    ^Who here said that they want to shut down the democratic process, and that only the anointed can run in elections?
    It's certainly implied by posters angry about Booker entering the race and forcing the Democrats to hold a competitive primary, and other Democrats having the temerity to actually support the candidate they believe is better. That's how primaries are supposed to work.

    Comments like these:

    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    Because Perfect is the enemy of Good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    Because ideologues on the left share an attribute with ideologues on the right: both are divorced from political reality. Both would rather lose while remaining ideologically pure (by their lights) than win while compromising.
    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Because Bernie is a top-tier spoiler, determined to rip defeat from the jaws of victory.
    are just more of the "my way or the highway" attitude that won the presidency for Trump in 2016.

    After the primary, yes, all Democrats should support the candidate. In the primary, candidates have the chance to earn that support. Lacking a real primary, an election becomes less democratic. Apparently, that's what some here would like to see.

    I think we can set a much higher bar and still defeat Trump. And McConnell.

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    Oh God, here we go again.
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    for nature cannot be fooled."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Oh God, here we go again.

    Yes. But you should have posted this comment earlier, when people started posting their disapproval of holding a primary to let voters choose the candidate they want to support. That's where it properly fits into this discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Tom View Post
    Yes. But you should have posted this comment earlier, when people started posting their disapproval of holding a primary to let voters choose the candidate they want to support. That's where it properly fits into this discussion.

    Tom
    The first bit was easily sloughed off, and could have gone nowhere.

    Kinda like the start of a fight. The first push is not the biggest catalyst. It's the response that determines if it will escalate into fisticuffs/wrestling/blades/etc..... or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    The first bit was easily sloughed off, and could have gone nowhere.

    Kinda like the start of a fight. The first push is not the biggest catalyst. It's the response that determines if it will escalate into fisticuffs/wrestling/blades/etc..... or not.
    Sometimes the biggest push in the current fight is a reaction to many many many many small pushes from the other side that were ignored, or even implicitly approved.

    You have posters here voicing disapproval of a primary process, and even more disapproval that some public figures are daring to support the candidate that seems best to them. Do you think that's OK? Do you approve?

    I don't.

    If we can't have a competitive primary because we're blind to all principles but the need to defeat specific candidates, then we've gone too far.

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    Default Re: Mitch McConnell is increasingly vulnerable in Kentucky, thank God.

    Well... you may have a point.

    And... on an entirely unrelated matter... does the word 'triggered' mean anything to you? <G>
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    Oh, we've all got triggers here. With the possible exception of Keith Wilson? Certainly I do. Doesn't mean I'm wrong (or right, for that matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Tom View Post
    Yes. But you should have posted this comment earlier, when people started posting their disapproval of holding a primary to let voters choose the candidate they want to support. That's where it properly fits into this discussion.
    True enough.
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    Wi-Tom - I have to wonder about you!

    I, and most here, are all for 'democracy' and the 'right' to choose who represents us. But it seems smart* to think it through - and (we should) recognize exactly what the 'bottom line' goal is. In this case, defeat McTurtle. Bottom line. And if a 'far left' liberal democrat is outright doomed to accomplish that, WTH have you accomplished?

    Sanders very much is playing the spoiler. Idealism, over results - to all our detriment.
    There's a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit....

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    mcconnell wins bigly
    this was never in doubt
    we're talking kentucky here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    mcconnell wins bigly
    this was never in doubt
    we're talking kentucky here
    Oyyy... he's pa'l tigre again!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    I hope that he counterbalances his celebration of the primary process now with later highly vocal support of the eventual primary winner. Or will AOC and Bernie disappear during the general campaign?
    If history is any guide, he'll vanish.
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    I can think of fewer politicians more loathsome than Yertle.

    Plus, aside from Hannity, he has the most punchable face on TV.

    I hope he gets booted. See my signature.
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