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    Default Do you think Trumps Mideast peace plan will go anywhere?

    The other day President Trump unveiled his peace plan for the Mideast.
    It seems that every President tries but these plans all end in failure.

    So I am hopeful but not convinced it will work.

    What do you think?

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    We can hope somebody can find peace in the Middle East, but I am not going to hold my breath. Some administrations make stabs in the dark, others a more nuanced tactic. So far most of them have failed for one reason or another.
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    I don't think the Palestinians like it, they basically are getting screwed.

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    “It’s very much win-lose, win for Israel, lose for the Palestinians,” “The deal as we know it ... is very, very one-sided, there is very little of anything on Palestinian rights,” “None of this bodes well for the future.”
    “It may be a way to help Mr. Netanyahu get reelected in Israel and it may be a way for Mr. Trump to shore up his base at home,” “But it’s got very little to do with a serious peace plan.”
    James Moran of the Centre for European Policy Studies questioned the deal, noting that U.S. negotiators “steamed ahead without any buy-in whatever from the Palestinians.”

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    It will go with Trump into hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    The other day President Trump unveiled his peace plan for the Mideast.
    It seems that every President tries but these plans all end in failure.

    So I am hopeful but not convinced it will work.

    What do you think?
    It would have been nice if the Palestinians were invited to the PARTY gang. This reminds me of the Impeachment trial being run by the Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Smith porter maine View Post
    I don't think the Palestinians like it, they basically are getting screwed.
    Ditto.

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    Graham, the Palestinians weren’t included also review the last Jared peace plan and where Trumps “NATOME” went.
    In other words it’s a farce.


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    If this goes through the celebratory banquet will feature lobsters, oysters and roast suckling pig.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Like everything else that Trump touches, it will die.
    The Constitution, which Donald has also put his grubby little hands on, is due to die as soon as Moscow Mitch acquits him.
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    Put it in perspective, Trumps giving it a try like , how many Past presidents have? hopefully their will be positive results, but based on the fact that there have been religious/tribal wars going on in the mid east for hundreds of years, it seems like their major sporting event, I don't know.

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    Considering that it is a bilateral agreement between Trump and Netanyahu it is dead on arrival. A peace plan created without consulting the Palestinians is rather meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    The other day President Trump unveiled his peace plan for the Mideast.
    It seems that every President tries but these plans all end in failure.
    When the plan is developed by one side, without the participation and assent of the other side, of COURSE it will fail.... only a fookin' IDIOT could have thought otherwise.

    It wasn't a 'peace plan'.... it was a public relations favor to Bibi Netanyahu, to take the public eye away from Bibi's corruption.
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."







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    Don't worry I'm happy

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    It's not a peace plan. It's a Trump/Kushner plot to cash in on real estate development in Israel.

    Think of all those shiny new apartments built on stolen Palestinian land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd D View Post
    Considering that it is a bilateral agreement between Trump and Netanyahu it is dead on arrival. A peace plan created without consulting the Palestinians is rather meaningless.
    I saw two crooks on the podium congratulating each other. Should not go anywhere at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I saw two crooks on the podium congratulating each other. Should not go anywhere at all.
    Gotta love a major political announcement by a man who's being impeached & another man who's been indicted. Of course it'll be a wonderful plan!
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    Underground?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    If this goes through the celebratory banquet will feature lobsters, oysters and roast suckling pig.

    Well played, Sir !!!!

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    Of course not. The difference is Trump will claim it worked, and his supporters will believe him.
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    Very good news

    Title: Israel and UAE strike historic deal to normalise relations
    Israel and the United Arab Emirates have reached a deal to normalise relations, with Israel agreeing to suspend its controversial plans to annex parts of the occupied West Bank.
    In a surprise statement by US President Donald Trump, who helped broker it, the countries called the accord "historic" and a breakthrough toward peace.
    Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-53770859


    Title: Israel and the UAE just struck a historic peace deal. It’s a big win for Trump.
    Link: https://www.vox.com/2020/8/13/213665...rump-palestine

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    I wonder how much SFB paid for this little bit of press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofswen View Post
    “It’s very much win-lose, win for Israel, lose for the Palestinians,” “The deal as we know it ... is very, very one-sided, there is very little of anything on Palestinian rights,” “None of this bodes well for the future.”
    “It may be a way to help Mr. Netanyahu get reelected in Israel and it may be a way for Mr. Trump to shore up his base at home,” “But it’s got very little to do with a serious peace plan.”
    James Moran of the Centre for European Policy Studies questioned the deal, noting that U.S. negotiators “steamed ahead without any buy-in whatever from the Palestinians.”
    ++
    It's about the political futures of both men, nothing to do with justice or peace. Cynical to the extreme. Sweet fanny adams to do with a lasting peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    I wonder how much SFB paid for this little bit of press.
    A few truckloads of fertilizer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    A few truckloads of fertilizer?
    He does seem to have a taste for killing people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    He does seem to have a taste for killing people.
    Poop is what Trumpalos live on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    Poop is what Trumpalos live on
    Yeah, I went to that dark place full of exploding Ammonium nitrate.

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    Shall we let this one settle for 90-120 days?

    Anyone who thinks this is a peace plan is nuts. This is an anti-Iran alliance. No more.

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    It's a lot more than that. It stands for the proposition that diplomatic relations between Israel and certain Arab states does not hinge on Palestinian statehood or even an engaged "peace process". No, this is new.

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    Let’s let it simmer, shall we?

    I’m firm in my views. You can be in yours. It’s a testable proposition.

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    It can be representative of a budding alliance against Iran, an analysis that I agree with. It also is undoubtedly a repudiation by an Arab polity that Palestinian statehood is a precondition for establishing diplomatic relations with Israel. It's not something needing to be "tested." It just happened. It's a fact.

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    How's that North Korea thing going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    It can be representative of a budding alliance against Iran, an analysis that I agree with. It also is undoubtedly a repudiation by an Arab polity that Palestinian statehood is a precondition for establishing diplomatic relations with Israel. It's not something needing to be "tested." It just happened. It's a fact.
    It’s a fact that statements have been made. Will they be sustainable? Will the Palestinians continue to be excluded? And by whom? What will the status be a year from now of West Bank settlement expansion? Do we REALLY think that the Israelis will stop building them just for an alliance with the UAE? I don’t.

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