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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    Dead end a light line at the throat, run it down through a bee hole on the boom about 2/3 out, back up to a ring or block and down. When you pull on the line everything folds up ...... as long as you have enough slack on the boom jaws so that they don't bind up. The Delaware folks did this with their gaff rigged tuckups and hikers as well, dropping the gaff, furling the sail then pulllng it up into a bundle so that it lifted out with the mast. Bear in mind they were lowering the rig down from a high pier, with someone in the boat to guide it into place. For the ducker, the rig is light enough to handle, but when I moved up away from beaches and marshes, I added a stepping box to the boat so I'd have control if the boat moved around.
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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    Ben F. What you describe sounds remarkably like a topping lift.

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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    Well for now all the sail makers I tried to contact are pretty mute. One did reply and it seems he has more work then he can handle. It looks like Armageddon, so folks are looking for some fun stuff fulfilled on their bucket list. So I'm still looking for a 64 sq ft sprit sail and a 24 sq ft jib. Any hints as to other sources would be appreciated.

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    Try CT Craigslist for sails

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Dillon View Post
    Well for now all the sail makers I tried to contact are pretty mute. One did reply and it seems he has more work then he can handle. It looks like Armageddon, so folks are looking for some fun stuff fulfilled on their bucket list. So I'm still looking for a 64 sq ft sprit sail and a 24 sq ft jib. Any hints as to other sources would be appreciated.

    Stay safe.. but have some fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Dillon View Post
    Ben F. What you describe sounds remarkably like a topping lift.

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    Not unlike, a varient on the double topping lift, but designed to hoist the boom up and sail up against the mast.
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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    Quote Originally Posted by J. Dillon View Post
    Well for now all the sail makers I tried to contact are pretty mute. One did reply and it seems he has more work then he can handle. It looks like Armageddon, so folks are looking for some fun stuff fulfilled on their bucket list. So I'm still looking for a 64 sq ft sprit sail and a 24 sq ft jib. Any hints as to other sources would be appreciated.

    Stay safe.. but have some fun.

    JD
    You can KISS this for starters with some tarp or tyvek sails just to see if everything works out.
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    https://www.duckworks.com/product-p/...m-t-parent.htm

    I through this idea out on post #10, it looks like an interesting sprit sail to me. But I do not know anything about them, curious what others think. It is not expensive and in-stock.

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    Thanks for the tips . I intend to look into the Pryde sail for the main sail but still need ideas for a jib.

    Keep safe .. but have some fun.

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    You have fun and keep safe too. That is certainly the name of the game now! At least sailing can be socially distant exercise.

    You could try Bacon sails for a jib. Not sure it’s the best idea but you might be able to get one for a decent priceZ
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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    My Skiff (Iain Oughtred Design "Spike") was originally designed for Sprit or Chesapeake Rig. I prefered to build it with a Balanced Lug Rig.
    As I was not sure where the mast-step is to be located in the boat, I constructed a system (sledge), made of plywood-layers and stainless shroud-tensioner). With this I am able to move the mast-step in longitudial direction and trim the rig.

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    Unless you tape up a test jib you want a quite small one. Have a look at class boats that are carrying about 100 sq ft of sail. Generally there is around 25 feet in the jib. You could get a jib for very small money or even free. The jibs may have an aspect ratio that won't work, in which case get a bigger one that has a foot length that is about right and cut it down. Keep the foot, cut the leech.
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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pateplumaboat View Post
    My Skiff (Iain Oughtred Design "Spike") was originally designed for Sprit or Chesapeake Rig. I prefered to build it with a Balanced Lug Rig.
    As I was not sure where the mast-step is to be located in the boat, I constructed a system (sledge), made of plywood-layers and stainless shroud-tensioner). With this I am able to move the mast-step in longitudial direction and trim the rig.

    See Picture:

    Maststep1.jpg
    This is pretty nice. Seems to me that Finn dinghy's used to have an adjustable step like this. Nice bit of work.
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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    That's a nifty idea above.

    Decided on another tack for now. Neil Pryde sails cannot deliver a sail for 8 weeks. So in the mean time I'm coming about and have the opportunity to get a Blue Jay aluminum mast and sail to try that out on the MIT Tech Dinghy. The jib is not available The main sail is about 65 Sq ft. But I'm not abandoning my idea for a sprit sail and jib eventually.

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    Here my movable mast-step (here with mast stepped ready to sail) as mentioned above with shroud-tensioner.

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    Shaula 111 Temp rig.jpgOK, so I cannot get the sprit rig I wanted for this tech dinghy I was able to find this rig to use in the mean time. A bit under rigged but it just might amuse me for now. I will have to make some battens as it lacks any.Can any body identify the class, also a jib that will fit ?

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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pateplumaboat View Post
    My Skiff (Iain Oughtred Design "Spike") was originally designed for Sprit or Chesapeake Rig. I prefered to build it with a Balanced Lug Rig.
    As I was not sure where the mast-step is to be located in the boat, I constructed a system (sledge), made of plywood-layers and stainless shroud-tensioner). With this I am able to move the mast-step in longitudial direction and trim the rig.

    See Picture:

    Maststep1.jpg

    Optimists have them

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    Well for the time being or when I get some sail maker to cut the sprit sail I want The rig shown above will have to do. It is sorely under powered and a 30 SQ ft jib will help But I incorporated some features I can use. First image shows a mast collar Inserted on the 2" dia mast. It keeps the mast from wobbling around in the partner. It stays on the mast. That way it is easier to step the mast. De powering the boat is important to me especially when docking. So I rigged the clew out haul to come back to the mast reeve through a block near the luff down haul , then back to a cam cleat on the CB case. When released it De powers the sail far faster then the sheet. Also it allows me to sort of furl the sail with a trip line and when ready for setting yank on the trip line and haul on the clew out haul. The boom I got with the mast and sail was a bit short to reach a boom crutch. So I added a block of wood to it enabling the boom end to rest in the slot. When the clew out haul is hauled all the way in, it lifts the boom out of it.
    Now to find a jib about 10' on the luff and 6' on the foot.

    Shaula repairs mast collor.jpgShaula repairs main furled jpg.jpgShaula repairs un furling.jpg


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    Default Re: MIT Tech 12'X5' dinghy rerigged to a lug rig ?

    Between doctor visits and availability of a sailing buddy, I had the opportunity to splash the tech dinghy Yesterday. We launched the boat to see:
    1 If it floats near her lines
    2 If it leaks
    3.And to see just what she will do with two sails
    Well the wind never got much past 7 kts the CB case at the pivoting lever does leak. She does float near enough to the boot topping. The big problem was that the boom is way too low My buddy hardly could duck it and even I had my problems ducking. But since this sail is not the rig I intend, it just provided an opportunity to see what needs to be corrected, especially the leak and to get out on the water. The real rig when I get the sail made will be a sprit rig, with the jib shown previously The boom will be much higher. Under just main sail she was sluggish but with the jib up she came alive. So I can see that the boat has potential to invest more time in the rig and to fix things over the off season The original CB case with the lever to raise and lower the CB will have to be dissembled and maybe rig some kind of gasket. I won't know until I take it off.
    Shaula % Pete ready to launch.jpgShaula Pete wondering ..jpgShaula pete with jib & bailer.jpgIn the last image you can see how low the boom is. However my valiant crew managed to bail and tend the jib sheet, all with a smile.


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