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    New Zealand has ordered 1.2 million sq cm of skin from America to treat patients suffering burns of up to 95% after Monday's volcano eruption. Surgeons have been working around the clock on 29 patients in burns units across the country since the volcano suddenly erupted on White Island, off New Zealand's North Island.
    https://news.sky.com/story/new-zeala...ients-11883581

    1,291 square feet sounds like a very large area.

    Approximately 44.5 square feet per person(29), given that the average adult human has a skin area of 16.1-21.5 square feet.

    Would this be in case some grafts do not 'take' ?

    Where does such skin come from ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post

    Where does such skin come from ?
    from the united states, duh
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    Default Re: New Zealand orders 1.2 million sq cm of skin from US

    Cadavers. The skin is not permanently grafted onto the patient. It is only a temporary measure until the patient's own skin can be relocated, so to speak. Hard to believe that we cannot invent artificial skin that would do the job.

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    Default Re: New Zealand orders 1.2 million sq cm of skin from US

    We're not very good with artificial organs yet, and skin is one of the largest (if not the largest by weight) organs humans have.

    What are you doing about it?




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    They can grow skin from cells. Usually feet cells of the patient themselves, if there is any. Cadaver skin presents the same rejection risks all organ transplants do.

    Two of my friends are trauma nurses specializing in burns, and one is a doctor. Fascinating and horrific to listen to them talk about their work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    We're not very good with artificial organs yet, and skin is one of the largest (if not the largest by weight) organs humans have.
    Human skin is quite thick.

    They may be seeking the 'top' layer to use as 'grafts' to allow the lower layers heal. A horrendous experience. I feel for those requiring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    They can grow skin from cells. Usually feet cells of the patient themselves, if there is any. Cadaver skin presents the same rejection risks all organ transplants do.

    Two of my friends are trauma nurses specializing in burns, and one is a doctor. Fascinating and horrific to listen to them talk about their work.

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    wow, i couldn't sit there listening to those work stories without making myself sick. but sure am glad there's people that are capable of that kind of work.

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    Look up Pete Dern Fresno Firefighter.

    My homies worked on him.

    A very similar set of injuries, I would imagine, some of the volcano victims suffered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    wow, i couldn't sit there listening to those work stories without making myself sick. but sure am glad there's people that are capable of that kind of work.
    Itís the trauma cats that always get me, too.

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    Default Re: New Zealand orders 1.2 million sq cm of skin from US

    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    It’s the trauma cats that always get me, too.

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    it's fascinating to me how some people are so well equipped to handle that kind of stuff, where i would be throwing up in the corner.

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    I'd hate to suffer serious burns. Just horrific.

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    As the patients came in anyone that was available was recruited to wrap patients in cling wrap, hold hands and just be there, and in one case sing to them. Any conscious patient, and there were some, would have been terrified. One volunteer did 14 hours. The smell of burnt flesh and sulphur was overpowering and the ash the patients bought in has effected AC systems in the hospital. These stirling people will need a lot of support for some time as well.

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    I can't think of a worse way to die. The survivors have a traumatic recovery period ahead of them. My youngest suffered a 3rd degree burn when she was young and I never want to go through that ever again.
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    Default Re: New Zealand orders 1.2 million sq cm of skin from US

    Several years ago there was a news item on TV about a paint sprayer type system where your own skin cells were grown in a petri dish then sprayed onto the burned area . It seemed like a huge leap in the treatment of burn victims . Not sure how well it really works or under what conditions it can be used.

    Short video of the process here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLXnMuIHNNU , seems like a sales pitch for the device but if it works then make them common.

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    Default Re: New Zealand orders 1.2 million sq cm of skin from US

    Usually they try to move your own skin from one place to another. In most i'd say there's not a lot left to move.

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    Default Re: New Zealand orders 1.2 million sq cm of skin from US

    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Look up Pete Dern Fresno Firefighter.

    My homies worked on him.

    A very similar set of injuries, I would imagine, some of the volcano victims suffered.

    Peace,
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    ...I'm hopeful our own Turia Pitt would be a real champion to the cause of helping sufferers get through their ordeal.
    the pain and suffering burns victims experience is beyond measure in my opinion.

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