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    How can anyone vote for this man? Yet plenty will.

    Fifty infamous moments that shame Jeremy Corbyn: The list of incidents that call into question the Labour leader's credentials to be prime minister

    By MARTIN BECKFORD and EMINE SINMAZ FOR THE DAILY MAIL
    PUBLISHED: 23:56 GMT, 11 December 2019 | UPDATED: 08:30 GMT, 12 December 2019

    1. Invited two IRA members to Parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing
    2. Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna
    3. Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney
    4. Hosted IRA-linked Mitchell McLaughlin in Parliament
    5. Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson

    6. Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly

    7. Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane
    8. Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists
    9. Stood in minute's silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS
    10. Signed Early Day Motion after IRA massacre, blaming Britain for the deaths

    11. Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber's co-defendants

    12. Lobbied Government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers
    13. Attended Irish republican event where calls were made for armed conflict against Britain
    14. Put up 20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey
    15. Said banned terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah were his 'friends'

    16. Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list

    17. Attended wreath-laying at grave of 1976 Munich massacre terrorist (above)
    18. Attended conference where Hamas and Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine were present
    19. Photographed at rally in front of Hezbollah flag
    20. Attended rally with members of banned Al-Muhajiroun

    21. Repeatedly shared platforms with plane hijacker

    22. Accepted 20,000 for appearing on state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime
    23. Opposed banning Britons from going to Syria to fight for ISIS
    24. Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria
    25. Voted to let ISIS fighters return from Syria

    26. Opposed police 'shoot to kill' policy

    27. Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects
    28. Accepted 5,000 donation from academic who said 'Palestinians have a moral right to their terrorism'
    29. Chaired Stop The War, which praised the 'internationalism and solidarity' of ISIS
    30. Shook hands with cleric Raed Salah after he had been found guilty of incitement to terrorism

    31. Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr

    32. Compared ISIS to U.S. military in interview on Russia Today
    33. Opposed proscription of extreme Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir
    34. Backed Holocaust-denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen
    35. Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John

    36. Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks

    37. Called Colombian terror group M-19 'comrades'
    38. Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime
    39. Voted against banning support for the IRA
    40. Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles

    41. Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11

    42. Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group
    43. Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism
    44. Voted against banning al-Qaeda
    45. Voted against control orders for terror suspects

    46. Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism

    47. Helped convicted IRA bombmaker Gerard McLaughlin (above left with Corbyn) get a job after he got a council flat
    48. Said ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi should have been arrested rather than killed
    49. Went to court to support an IRA fixer
    50. Co-sponsored Irish Republican event that called jailed bombers 'prisoners of war'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7783193/Fifty-infamous-moments-shame-Jeremy-Corbyn.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    How can anyone vote for this man? Yet plenty will.
    quite easily i reckon

    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    quite easily i reckon
    Good joke.

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    It comes down to which candidate lies more than the other. Boris appears to be ahead. Polls only pre election. There is a blackout today so won't know until votes are all in.

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    Lesser of two weevils, I guess.
    "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations,
    for nature cannot be fooled."

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    Geezus. You guys are as frigged up as we are.

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    Boris is a stranger to the truth - and lacks sufficient wit to slide down a zip wire.

    Corbyn stopped thinking sometime around 1972.

    Swinson and Sturgeon are looking like the sane choice.
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    Boris is a stranger to the truth - and lacks sufficient wit to slide down a zip wire.

    Corbyn stopped thinking sometime around 1972.

    Swinson and Sturgeon are looking like the sane choice.
    and Price!

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    Way to go lady!!!!!

    This is whom the Labour party have as Shadow Home Secretary since 2016 and if Labour win would be the 'Home Secretary'.
    The Home Secretary is responsible for the internal affairs of England and Wales, and for immigration and citizenship for the United Kingdom
    Wearing mis-matching shoes and also are two left shoes

    How 'left' can one get?

    Starting off on the wrong foot! Labour's Diane Abbott is so keen to cast her vote she appears to have rushed out wearing MISMATCHING shoes


    • Ms Abbott appeared to be wearing two left shoes from separate pairs of loafers
    • She turned out to support Labour colleague Meg Hillier in Hackney South
    • But Twitter users quickly spotted something was up in snap posted online



    By DAVID WILCOCK, WHITEHALL CORRESPONDENT FOR MAILONLINE
    PUBLISHED: 11:38 GMT, 12 December 2019 | UPDATED: 17:28 GMT, 12 December 2019
    Labour's Diane Abbott started off on the wrong foot today - as she appeared to go out campaigning with odd shoes on the wrong feet.

    At the end of a long and gruelling winter election campaign she turned out to support Labour colleague Meg Hillier in her neighbouring East London constituency of Hackney South.

    But Twitter users quickly spotted something was up when Ms Hillier posted a picture of them online.
    Ms Abbott appeared to be wearing two left shoes.

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    Ms Abbott appeared to be wearing two left shoes from separate pairs of black loafers


    They were at a supermarket in east London this morning

    One person wrote: 'Mmmmm well done Dianne Abbott. Odd shoes and one of the shoes is on the wrong foot.'


    Another said: 'Two left shoes and odd shoes too!'

    But others showed their support for the Labour veteran, with one saying: 'Ms Abbott is quite obviously under the weather- take her home for a nice cup of tea and a hobnob ... one can't help but feel sorry.'

    Ms Abbott, a close ally of Jeremy Corbyn, [
    had an affair with him
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/22/revealed-jeremy-corbyn-showed-off-naked-diane-abbott-to-impress/] is defending a Labour majority of 35,000 in her Hackney North and Stoke Newington seat.

    She has had a low key election campaign and has seldom featured at large events with Jeremy Corbyn or any of the other shadow Cabinet members,


    He was greeted by a protester dressed as Elmo, a character from children's TV programme Sesame Street as he arrived to cast his vote in north London this morning.


    The woman was restrained by security guards as she tried to approach Mr Corbyn as he entered the polling station.

    As the woman in fancy dress argued with security and police, Mr Corbyn said: "Hello guys, can we stop the arguments please."

    He later posed for photographs with a small number of supporters and well-wishers outside the polling station at Pakeman Primary School in Islington with his wife Laura Alvarez.


    Voters were stuck in the biggest queues seen at polling stations for years today as millions took part in Britain's most important election for a generation with their decision expected to make-or-break Brexit.
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    The interesting bunch are Sinn Fein who, at the last election, had seven seats - but never took them.

    as pro-remainers (as was the whole of N.I.) they'd be welcome to represent their constituents.
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    Forgive them, for they know not what the Donald Duck they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treading water View Post
    Forgive them, for they know not what the Donald Duck they do.
    Sadly, so it would seem.

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    Very few people will be voting for him, because the UK is not the USA, and nobody outside the riding of Islington North is able to vote for him.

    Voting for the local Labour candidate, on the other hand, seem like an excellent alternative to the Conservatives. The only good Tory is a suppository.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Rum,

    First, I would want all of the above allegations you noted to be substantiated.

    But *assuming* they were... perhaps Corbyn feels some collective guilt about a) the 'Brits prohibiting the Irish from learning to read under occupation, and b) Not just inviting Jewish refugees to inhabit Palestine (as in many other countries) after the Holocaust (good), but enabling them to establish a theocratic state ("The Jewish State"), thereby making those of any other faith lesser citizens in their own land, for those that were not pushed out of their own land. (Bad) (And lest you think I am antisemitic, my birth certificate would prove otherwise.)
    When you can take the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Very few people will be voting for him, because the UK is not the USA, and nobody outside the riding of Islington North is able to vote for him.

    Voting for the local Labour candidate, on the other hand, seem like an excellent alternative to the Conservatives. The only good Tory is a suppository.
    Suggest you acquaint yourself with the 'giveaway' manifesto of the Labour Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob (oh, THAT Bob) View Post
    Rum,

    First, I would want all of the above allegations you noted to be substantiated.

    But *assuming* they were... perhaps Corbyn feels some collective guilt about a) the 'Brits prohibiting the Irish from learning to read under occupation, and b) Not just inviting Jewish refugees to inhabit Palestine (as in many other countries) after the Holocaust (good), but enabling them to establish a theocratic state ("The Jewish State"), thereby making those of any other faith lesser citizens in their own land, for those that were not pushed out of their own land. (Bad) (And lest you think I am antisemitic, my birth certificate would prove otherwise.)
    All the information is in the public domain.


    Suggest you acquaint yourself with the antisemitism in the Labour Party.
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    Bono is a stupid bigot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Conway View Post
    Bono is a stupid bigot
    Who is this 'Bono' to whom you refer?

    Or are you invoking Whataboutism?

    Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument. It is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.
    When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world. .
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
    First seen Post #110 http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...09#post6044309

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Suggest you acquaint yourself with the 'giveaway' manifesto of the Labour Party.
    Suggest you pull your head out, as oxygen deprivation cause brain damage almost as quickly as reading the Daily Mail.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Suggest you acquaint yourself with the 'giveaway' manifesto of the Labour Party.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Suggest you pull your head out, as oxygen deprivation cause brain damage almost as quickly as reading the Daily Mail.
    I see you still haven't acquainted yourself with the 'giveaway' manifesto of the Labour Party. https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/upl...festo-2019.pdf

    Lets talk after you have.

    It is the Labour party that needs to pull its collective head out, not I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Suggest you acquaint yourself with the antisemitism in the Labour Party.
    Today, I would be called antisemitic by the government of Israel, for my opposition to what is actually Apartheid in that land, against people who had no part in the Holocaust. And I cannot count on two hands the number of my grandmother's family members who disappeared off the face of the earth in Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    I see you still haven't acquainted yourself with the 'giveaway' manifesto of the Labour Party. https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/upl...festo-2019.pdf

    Lets talk after you have.

    It is the Labour party that needs to pull its collective head out, not I.

    What are your thoughts on Tony Blair and his time in office?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    I see you still haven't acquainted yourself with the 'giveaway' manifesto of the Labour Party.
    Au contraire, I am familiar with the platform, I wouldn't call it a "giveaway", and I think you are at best a misguided troll. Why you feel the need to carry water for other countries' conservatives is beyond me; it's not like they're going to do anything for you.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob (oh, THAT Bob) View Post
    What are your thoughts on Tony Blair and his time in office?
    Tony Blair - have nothing good to say about him or his successor Brown.

    If you want to discuss 'Tony Blair and his time in office', why not start a thread on that

    Anyway let's not deflect from the Original Thread title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Au contraire, I am familiar with the platform, I wouldn't call it a "giveaway", and I think you are at best a misguided troll. Why you feel the need to carry water for other countries' conservatives is beyond me; it's not like they're going to do anything for you.
    Hell, they won’t even do anything for there own voters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Au contraire, I am familiar with the platform, I wouldn't call it a "giveaway", and I think you are at best a misguided troll. Why you feel the need to carry water for other countries' conservatives is beyond me; it's not like they're going to do anything for you.
    Not calling it a "giveaway" is your opinion, to which you are entitled.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    Au contraire, I am familiar with the platform, I wouldn't call it a "giveaway", and I think you are at best a misguided troll. Why you feel the need to carry water for other countries' conservatives is beyond me; it's not like they're going to do anything for you.
    Why your dig and why this deflection Whataboutism to the UK conservatives?

    Let's stick to the subject of the OP.

    BTW Yes, the UK will do something for me (a UK citizen) like pay my pension, for which I have contributed all my working life and having paid all my taxes etc, one day keeping my options open I may decide to retire there.

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    Abandon hope Rummy, for you have had your mind made up for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Abandon hope Rummy, for you have had your mind made up for you.
    Absolutely, by the actions of Mr Corbyn, I cannot and would not vote for Mr Corbyn.

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    The anti forces are advocating a 'tactical' vote to get a second referendum. Corbyn becomes PM with the support of a miscelany of other dispirit parties that want that to happen. But a coalition is unlikely to last, another election, Conservatives win again but without Boris as PM.

    Anyhow exit polls are out in about 63 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Anyhow exit polls are out in about 63 minutes.
    Should be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Not calling it a "giveaway" is your opinion
    Using the fruits of the country's labour to look after the people who provide it, and the people who for one reason or another aren't able to, is not a "giveaway". The concentration of wealth in the hands of the few is a giveaway, albeit an involuntary one--and when everyone else is suffering because of it, an obscenity.
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    I do wish rummy would stop drinking Daily Wail Kool-aid. He reveals himself as an unthinking believe every crap report that confirms his prejudice RWW every time he quotes them.
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    Astonishing some peoples incapacity to THINK.

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    Not my fight this one, but if Rum is against someone it would be a good first step for my inclination to be for them.

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    So you guys would support the man described in the OP.

    Incredulous.

    When he is elected PM tomorrow, I will remind you.
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