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    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...mpression=true

    Shell Workers Had To Attend Trump Speech To Be Paid, Were Ordered Not To Protest: Report

    They were instructed: "No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance," according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
    By Mary Papenfuss
    08/17/2019 12:49 AM ET

    Attendance was not mandatory for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant north of Pittsburgh, but they had to forfeit pay for the day if they skipped, according to attendance and comportment information obtained by the newspaper.

    “Your attendance is not mandatory,” one manager told workers, summarizing a memo that Shell sent to union leaders, the Post-Gazette reported, but only those who showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their ID cards and prepared to stand for hours through lunch would be paid.

    “No scan, no pay,” workers were warned.

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    is that legal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    is that legal?
    As if Trump cares about details, he just wants to see a full auditorium so he can boast about the crowd attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    is that legal?
    sounds unethical at the very least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    sounds unethical at the very least.
    What are you talking about? It's full-on authoritarian !!

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...ce-trump-rally

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    Did they get a bonus if they yelled “Benghazi!” or “Lock her up!”?

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    It’s the Donald Trump Show On Location!


    Quote Originally Posted by sandtown View Post
    What are you talking about? It's full-on authoritarian !!



    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...ce-trump-rally
    Trump's Pennsylvania event was funded by taxpayers, and thus legally not supposed to be a campaign-style rally—but the president wasted no time making it exactly that.

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    Will they lose wages if they don't vote for Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by birlinn View Post
    Will they lose wages if they don't vote for Trump?
    They lost wages if they didn’t attend because it was a “paid training day”.

    https://www.post-gazette.com/busines...s/201908160113

    The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was clear Tuesday: Either stand in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak or take the day off with no pay.

    “Your attendance is not mandatory,” said the rules that one contractor relayed to employees, summarizing points from a memo that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those who showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their ID cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

    “NO SCAN, NO PAY,” a supervisor for that contractor wrote.

    That company and scores of other contractors on site and their labor employees all have their own contracts with Shell. Several said the contracts stipulate that to get paid, workers must be onsite.

    Those who decided not to come to the site for the event would have an excused but non-paid absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    is that legal?
    They paid the people to be a loving crowd. Seems legal to me.
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    Tom

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    I'll need to be awfully desperate in order to buy another g-d dammed Shell oil product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    I'll need to be awfully desperate in order to buy another g-d dammed kshell oil product.
    It’s an ethane cracking plant that will make a million ton of plastic pellets a year.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/b...nia-plant.html

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    The Republic continues to leak.

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    It just makes it worse that Shell is just a subsidiary of Royal Dutch Shell

    Those PA workers had their political rights trashed by a company that is not even USAean

    RDS would never try that s__t in the Netherlands where they have actual strong unions.

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    Shell is Shell, and I used to use Rotella oil exclusively in my diesel Dodge. No Prob, Cummins recommends Valvoline Blue Premium 5W-40, anyway. My Volvo-Penta Diesel in the Albin has seen it's last Rotella, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    It’s an ethane cracking plant that will make a million ton of plastic pellets a year.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/b...nia-plant.html

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    Those little plastic beads are used to clean the intake/outtake channels of Atomic Power plants. Used to see them floating all over Chesapeake Bay from a plant in Va. Nasty little things.

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    Damn - I too have used Rotella for years. Guess that's it for me too.

    ETA: Just emailed Shell media with the info that they just lost a customer. Not that they'll probably care much.
    Last edited by Garret; 08-17-2019 at 03:05 PM.
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