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    From the BBC:

    Mr Trump's plans have... been quickly dismissed by politicians in Denmark. "It must be an April Fool's Day joke...but totally out of [season]!", tweeted former Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen.

    "Greenland is rich in valuable resources such as minerals, the purest water and ice, fish stocks, seafood, renewable energy and is a new frontier for adventure tourism. We're open for business, not for sale," the foreign ministry said in a statement shared on social media.

    Greenland Premier Kim Kielsen repeated the comments in a separate statement. "Greenland is not for sale, but Greenland is open for trade and cooperation with other countries, including the USA," he said.

    Greenland MP Aaja Chemnitz Larsen was also among those to dismiss the president's interest. "No thanks to Trump buying Greenland!", she wrote on Twitter, adding that a "better and more equal partnership with Denmark" was the way forward.

    Poul Krarup, editor-in-chief of Greenland's Sermitsiaq newspaper, told the BBC he "couldn't believe" Mr Trump's remarks. "Greenland is an independent area in the Danish kingdom and must be respected as such," he said. But he said he thought the chances of Mr Trump's reported ambitions being realised were unlikely. "We'd like to cooperate with the US, no doubt about that, but we are independent and we decide who our friends are."

    Politicians in Denmark have ridiculed the idea of a possible US acquisition.

    "If he is truly contemplating this, then this is final proof, that he has gone mad," foreign affairs spokesman for the populist Danish People's Party, Soren Espersen, told national broadcaster DR. "The thought of Denmark selling 50,000 citizens to the United States is completely ridiculous."

    "Out of all things that are not going to happen, this is the most unlikely. Forget it," Danish Conservative MP Rasmus Jarlov wrote on Twitter.

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    So Trump is once again making himself the laughingstock of the rest of the world.
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    Leave trout fishing out of this!

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    When do GOP leaders admit the potus is unfit, mentally incompetent and unable to perform the duties of the office?
    After the 2020 election then collective amnesia sets in.

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    Trump seems to have lost it. So what do we do?

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    The Post reports that there is no Trump administration plan in the event of a recession: "Trump has a somewhat conspiratorial view, telling some confidants that he distrusts statistics he sees reported in the news media and that he suspects many economists and other forecasters are presenting biased data to thwart his reelection.” (Next, he’ll be ranting about strawberries.)
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    Alarm bells should have been ringing long ago about this president’s fitness. Trump’s inability to distinguish facts from lies (more than 12,000 of them); his obsession with (and exaggeration of) his 2016 victory, which renders him unwilling to recognize Russia intervened to help him; his incoherent speech pattern and tweets; his refusal to read briefing materials; his impulsive moves and personal attacks on perceived enemies; and his affection for and manipulation by foreign dictators collectively suggest that he is not fit to work in the White House, let alone to be president. (Should the military obey a first-strike order from this guy?)

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    To be fair, the name probably threw him off. Greenland does sound like a theme park.

    Maybe he thinks it’s like Danish Disneyland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
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    So Trump is once again making himself the laughingstock of the rest of the world.

    Imagine all the conversations between allied agencies and diplomats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Imagine all the conversations between allied agencies and diplomats.
    It gives "Laugh-in" an entirely different meaning.

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    He continues to be a national embarrassment.
    Elect a clown expect a circus

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG
    When do GOP leaders admit the potus is unfit, mentally incompetent and unable to perform the duties of the office?
    After the 2020 election then collective amnesia sets in.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...what-do-we-do/
    To make it easier for bobbys I will post the entire commentary:

    Trump seems to have lost it. So what do we do?

    By Jennifer Rubin
    August 16


    The Post reports that there is no Trump administration plan in the event of a recession: "Trump has a somewhat conspiratorial view, telling some confidants that he distrusts statistics he sees reported in the news media and that he suspects many economists and other forecasters are presenting biased data to thwart his reelection.” (Next, he’ll be ranting about strawberries.)

    If you think that’s frightful, consider another Post report: “Trump has pushed top aides to investigate whether the U.S. government can purchase the giant ice-smothered island of Greenland.” As one might expect, “The presidential request has bewildered aides, some of whom continue to believe it isn’t serious, but Trump has mentioned it for weeks.”

    Greenland is part of the kingdom of Denmark, and last time I looked it wasn’t on the market. (What would the comps be?) In case you thought the wall was an expensive boondoggle, imagine what a pretty penny it would cost to buy a country of “2.2 million square kilometers, with 1.7 million of that covered in ice.” (Yes, after World War II, the Truman administration tried to buy it, but it didn’t amount to anything and no serious person thinks Denmark is going to sell part of its kingdom to us.)

    Sure, this is humorous, but it also frightening. We have no idea why this particular Trump obsession has taken hold or why someone — his secretary of state, perhaps — has not told him that this is silly, a waste of aides’ time and evidence of Trump’s unfitness as commander in chief. It is, after all. And whoever leaked this to the media seems to have understood the necessity of halting this behavior and, more important, grappling with his unhinged conduct.

    We are facing a possible recession, brought on by Trump’s ignorant trade war. Trump has made hash out of relations with allies, sabotaged bipartisan support for Israel, been snookered by Kim Jong Un, refused to take interest in securing our elections from Russian interference and exacerbated a border crisis by cutting off aid to three Central American countries We have a wave of white nationalist violence, for which a large majority of Americans think he is at least somewhat to blame. And Trump frets about Greenland.

    Alarm bells should have been ringing long ago about this president’s fitness. Trump’s inability to distinguish facts from lies (more than 12,000 of them); his obsession with (and exaggeration of) his 2016 victory, which renders him unwilling to recognize Russia intervened to help him; his incoherent speech pattern and tweets; his refusal to read briefing materials; his impulsive moves and personal attacks on perceived enemies; and his affection for and manipulation by foreign dictators collectively suggest that he is not fit to work in the White House, let alone to be president. (Should the military obey a first-strike order from this guy?)

    One would hope that former advisers, including James Mattis, H.R. McMaster, Rex Tillerson, Dan Coats and Gary Cohn, as well as the few remaining independent voices in the administration (FBI Director Christopher Wray, CIA Director Gina Haspel), would understand the necessity of advising Congress and the American people if they have concerns that the president is unfit.

    Don’t get your hopes up about the 25th Amendment, however. We have no reason to think members of his Cabinet and Vice President Pence would have the character and good judgment to activate its terms.

    Nevertheless, Trump’s behavior should give the House, already down the road on an impeachment inquiry, a sense of urgency. If the president has committed High Crimes & Misdemeanors and is also unfit, shouldn’t Congress be speeding things up? If evidence from Donald McGahn and others prove compelling on obstruction of justice and the economy sinks into recession, the Republican-led Senate might just take an impeachment trial seriously, or at the very least, urge him to resign or declare that he won’t run for reelection.

    In the meantime, the media and Congress should stop pretending Trump is fit to govern. He’s not. He needs to go as soon as possible, by whatever legal or electoral means possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    This is one of many Trump sideshow acts. More to come.
    I've also heard from reliable sources that Greenland and Iceland were accidentally named backward Greenland has the real crappy weather. Sell him an ice floe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
    I've also heard from reliable sources that Greenland and Iceland were accidentally named backward Greenland has the real crappy weather. Sell him an ice floe.
    Wait, What?
    I thought they were the same place...

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    I suspect he'd get diminishing returns, the ice is melting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    It gives "Laugh-in" an entirely different meaning.
    I doubt anyone with skin in the game is laughing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    I doubt anyone with skin in the game is laughing.
    Boris Johnson isn't but, I bet the other leaders in Europe are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Montgomery View Post
    To make it easier for bobbys I will post the entire commentary:

    You might as well open a door to a roomful of snakes, he isn’t going in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf
    I've also heard from reliable sources that Greenland and Iceland were accidentally named backward Greenland has the real crappy weather. Sell him an ice floe.
    "Greenland" was named by a Viking con-man.

    In the Norse sagas, it is said that Erik the Red was exiled from Iceland for murder. He set out in ships to find land rumored to be to the northwest. After settling there, he named the land Grfnland (Greenland), possibly to attract more people to settle there.
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    But home, sweet home

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    No doubt 20 years from now we will have our first Woodenboat festival in Nuuk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Smith porter maine View Post
    What on Earth does Greenland have to do with Iceland, it's a self governing part of the kingdom of Denmark,
    Greenland is not very different from Iceland. Nothing a few container ships from Ikea couldn’t cure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SajNCktocE



    Greenland and Iceland are merely as different as Kansas and Australia. Both have camels for the same reason...

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...est-180956176/

    http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/2018...ias-wild-camel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landrith View Post
    Greenland is not very different from Iceland. Nothing a few container ships from Ikea couldn’t cure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SajNCktocE



    Greenland and Iceland are merely as different as Kansas and Australia. Both have camels for the same reason...

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...est-180956176/

    http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/2018...ias-wild-camel
    Yup, both are in the Atlantic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post

    Greenland is a socialist form of government.
    In Greenland, only licensed gun owners
    6 may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition. Automatic or semiautomatic weapons are forbidden.
    Thats where our gun regs have gone, but "wait, there is more" the gun owners have to be licensed, and every individual gun has to be registered. Secure gun safes, subject to periodic inspection by a police gun officer. Not before time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john welsford View Post
    Thats where our gun regs have gone, but "wait, there is more" the gun owners have to be licensed, and every individual gun has to be registered. Secure gun safes, subject to periodic inspection by a police gun officer. Not before time.

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    But, I have enduring confidence that in lands with Polar Bears or Grizzlies, gun culture will survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landrith View Post
    But, I have enduring confidence that in lands with Polar Bears or Grizzlies, gun culture will survive.
    The polar bears and the Grizzlies may not though.I don't think Grizzlies live in Greenland.

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    "The Post reports that there is no Trump administration plan in the event of a recession: "Trump has a somewhat conspiratorial view, telling some confidants that he distrusts statistics he sees reported in the news media and that he suspects many economists and other forecasters are presenting biased data to thwart his reelection.” (Next, he’ll be ranting about strawberries.)"

    Of course the desire to purchase Greenland is actually linked to the issues around strawberries. Climate change and global warming is making growing strawberries in some of the traditional strawberry producing areas difficult, they don't do well in warmer climates, so the president is looking to purchase a colder venue for the future production of strawberries to go with his two scoops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landrith View Post
    But, I have enduring confidence that in lands with Polar Bears or Grizzlies, gun culture will survive.
    Our rules dont mean no guns. We have people who hunt, pigs, thar, deer and such. I occasionally shoot at a rifle club, ( I use a club rifle, Anschutz model 1907. Thats the model not the year) Its just that the ownership and security of guns is much tighter than it was before, and they were pretty tight then.
    But back to Greenland. I'd say that the Norwegians are sitting back laughing their heads off right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john welsford View Post
    "The Post reports that there is no Trump administration plan in the event of a recession: "Trump has a somewhat conspiratorial view, telling some confidants that he distrusts statistics he sees reported in the news media and that he suspects many economists and other forecasters are presenting biased data to thwart his reelection.” (Next, he’ll be ranting about strawberries.)"

    Of course the desire to purchase Greenland is actually linked to the issues around strawberries. Climate change and global warming is making growing strawberries in some of the traditional strawberry producing areas difficult, they don't do well in warmer climates, so the president is looking to purchase a colder venue for the future production of strawberries to go with his two scoops.

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    As Jim Bow says, and I was thinking……distraction.
    And denying anyone else the headlines.

    The media are tarts and donald knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landrith View Post
    But, I have enduring confidence that in lands with Polar Bears or Grizzlies, gun culture will survive.
    There is a difference between owning a gun and a gun culture.
    To do something good
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    Well perhaps if Greenland is not for sale he might make Putin an offer on a chunk of Siberia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    As Jim Bow says, and I was thinking……distraction.
    And denying anyone else the headlines.

    The media are tarts and donald knows it.
    Not the media, its the people who watch or read, without them the media wouldn't exist.

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    bobbys words>>>"Buy it cheap at a good price before global warming revels the sandy beaches."

    my words>> then your taxes can pay for it, not mine.

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    To be fair, Harry Truman proposed buying Greenland for $100million in 1946, but the Danes said no, of course. Perhaps it had something to do with DEW Line stations, etc.

    Of course, the US Virgin Islands used to be the Dutch West Indies, so there is that.

    Still, it's a moronic idea in this day in age from our current president, which is to be expected.
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    Another
    moronic idea in this day in age from our current president, which is to be expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Smith porter maine View Post
    I wonder what the 56000 brown people who live there think, Donald's treatment of Puerto Rico might be on there mind.
    Hope they pay more attention to what actually happened in PR, because Trump wasn't the problem there...

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    But it was not just about the leaked chats. Frustration with historic colonial repression, the fiscal oversight board appointed by Washington, and the incompetence and corruption of its government was the last straw for many Puerto Ricans. The Rosselló administration did little to stop the pilfering and years of corruption that eventually left U.S. citizens in Puerto Rico with no essential services for months, even years, after Hurricane Maria. Institutions were left to collapse, and the money needed for post-Maria recuperation and rebuilding was simply not there. The Rosselló administration exacerbated the suffering of the poor, the elderly and the disabled.Even while working to recuperate from the devastation of the hurricane, politicians and the members of the board continued to hand out lucrative, multimillion-dollar contracts to their friends and cronies. All while schools and medical services were shutting down. Puerto Rico’s Department of Education handed out millions of dollars in contracts, while it shut down hundreds of schools and privatized others. Children with disabilities and their families had to leave the island to get much-needed care. This is just one example of many. In return, families saw themselves separated and dispersed across the United States and several countries. It has been Puerto Rico’s largest exodus since the 1950s.

    https://time.com/5627564/puerto-rico...-what-to-know/

    [COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]On July 10, six high-ranking officials in Rosselló’s administration were [/COLOR]indicted[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]on 32 counts of money laundering, conspiracy and wire fraud.[/COLOR][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]Former Education Secretary Julia Keleher and another official were accused of directing up to $15.5 million dollars between 2017 and 2019 in federal funds toward politically connected contractors.[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]During her stint as Education Secretary, Keleher was widely criticized for her push to privatize the island’s public school system in the wake of Maria. Her plans also included massive cuts, teacher layoffs and school closures.[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]During a press conference announcing the charges, U.S Attorney for the District of Puerto Rico Rosa Emilia Rodríguez, called the defendant actions “shameful.”[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)]“It’s a pity that we see this kind of scheme,” she said. “There is so much work to be done in Puerto Rico and the people accused here profited from this, they sought to benefit their own personal interests and did not think they could help or that they were in a position to help Puerto Rico.”[/COLOR]
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    Oh, and yes.… buying Greenland is a stupid Trump idea.
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