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    Default Just heard that Epstein offed himself

    Only question in my mind is whether he's a more egregious POS than Trump, or merely comparable.

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    Suicide watch, ...people watching him suicide.
    How Convenient.
    More weight on Assange to stay alive now.
    The question should be HOW DID THIS HAPPEN ?

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    I guess "suicide watch" means they just watch him commit suicide?
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    So Epstein tries to commit suicide two weeks ago and isn't under suicide watch? The most hi profile prisoner in the country? Lol, hit job. Stinks of Trump. I hope all of his rape buddies go down, including Clinton. This may be the case that shows just how corrupt and connected the government is with the ultra rich.
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    Default Re: Just heard that Epstein offed himself

    There will be conspiracy theories about who killed him.

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    How very convenient for...

    ... just how many people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    There will be conspiracy theories about who killed him.
    Boy Howdy.

    And there should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    There will be conspiracy theories about who killed him.
    What are your thoughts? Do you not find it hard to believe he simply offed himself?
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    Perhaps it’ll be the Murder on the Orient Express version: they all did it.

    Seriously, McMike, I don’t know how many prisoners in that jail are able to hang themselves. The report says his injuries appear to be self-inflicted. I’m not a doctor so I’m not sure how distinguishing marks are from someone trying to hang themselves versus someone garroted or strangled.

    But it seems to me the guy had every reason to off himself, and hundreds of people wished him dead. I’d be surprised if there weren't surveillance cameras to help sort it out. My guess is that extraordinary caution was not taken because enough people wanted to see him die, and nature conveniently took its course.
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    Either way, and this might out me as a POS but WTF, I'm glad he had at least two or three weeks of anguish, he suffered. This is one of the few time I wish for a god and a hell. I wish the same for all of the people that enabled him and especially those that "played" with him. The who's who of those implicated in his ring, and of those in his circle that must have, at least, know something, and didn't try to intervene . . . The worlds power structure is heavily compromised by the revelations of his vile behavior. I have less faith in our government then I did before I read the names revealed during this case, the implicated by association, and the assumption that the well is much deeper than we can see at this time.
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    A lot of these sort of people got where they did by taking the "easy way" rather than doing the right things in life. To have a scumball like him off himself isn't unusual... it's the easy way out, rather than facing up to what he did.
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    Surveillance cameras ? well, that would make sense, so fuggetaboutit. There will be no camera, no tape, no feed, no witness.
    Hundreds wanted him dead ? no, hundreds of thousands wanted him alive. ...for trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMike View Post
    What are your thoughts? Do you not find it hard to believe he simply offed himself?
    Chances are that he simply hung himself. Couldn't face life in prison. The big question: How did this happen if he was on suicide watch? I believe that suicide watch means a prisoner is checked every 15 minutes or so. If these checks aren't random, it's easy for the guy to off himself right after the last check. 15 minutes is plenty of time to tie a knot and hang yourself if you are really committed.
    You would think that a video camera would be on him at all times.
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    Has the right started blaming the Clintons yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    Chances are that he simply hung himself. Couldn't face life in prison. The big question: How did this happen if he was on suicide watch? I believe that suicide watch means a prisoner is checked every 15 minutes or so. If these checks aren't random, it's easy for the guy to off himself right after the last check. 15 minutes is plenty of time to tie a knot and hang yourself if you are really committed.
    You would think that a video camera would be on him at all times.
    Heads will roll.
    I always thought that suicide watched also precluded anything that could be tied into a knot. Silly me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    Chances are that he simply hung himself. Couldn't face life in prison. The big question: How did this happen if he was on suicide watch? I believe that suicide watch means a prisoner is checked every 15 minutes or so. If these checks aren't random, it's easy for the guy to off himself right after the last check. 15 minutes is plenty of time to tie a knot and hang yourself if you are really committed.
    You would think that a video camera would be on him at all times.
    Heads will roll.
    There are too many very powerful lives at stake to not consider a less simple explanation. We've seen, in broad daylight, the manipulation of the legal system in the form of Barr for Trump. That kind of injustice in broad daylight has more than shown me that the powerful live far out of reach of laws. They operate without fear of real prosecution. I wholeheartedly admit to my hard idealism most of my life. I always knew there were evil people, and I even knew that many never end up paying for their crimes, but I never imagined the magnitude at which this occurred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    I always thought that suicide watched also precluded anything that could be tied into a knot. Silly me.
    I thought that, too. We live and learn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    I always thought that suicide watched also precluded anything that could be tied into a knot. Silly me.
    Unless you take his clothes, he will have something to knot up.
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    Dead men tell no tales.
    Yes it is suspicious under suicide watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMike View Post
    There is too many very powerful lives at stake to not consider a less simple explanation. We've seen, in broad daylight, the manipulation of the legal system in the form of Barr for Trump. That kind of injustice in broad daylight has more than shown me that the powerful live far out of reach of laws. They operate without fear of real prosecution. I wholeheartedly admit to my hard idealism most of my life. I always knew there were evil people, and I even knew that many never end up paying for their crimes, but I never imagined the magnitude at which this occurred.
    Could just as easily be a single individual acting out of loyalty.
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    How terribly convenient. Look now for what, for no investigation to proceed regarding his co-conspirators? For the evidence to mysteriously be destroyed? For "unexplained gaps" in the video surveillance of Epstein's cell?
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    For "unexplained gaps" in the video surveillance of Epstein's cell?

    This is the one I'll be looking for. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    Could just as easily be a single individual acting out of loyalty.
    Yes, neither eliminates the, at least, equal possibility of the other. That's my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    For "unexplained gaps" in the video surveillance of Epstein's cell?

    This is the one I'll be looking for. . .
    I'll make a gentleman's bet with you that we'll never see anything concrete make it out into the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccmanuals View Post
    Has the right started blaming the Clintons yet?
    It's got Hillary written all over it. 😎

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    Let's see: On 8/02 in response to the initial Epstein thread (A Million Pages) I posted "Who wants to bet on the odds for Epstein surviving long enough for trial?" so here we are... This thing really smells. My wife is a high powered psychologist and over 40+ years has seen many, many really bad things and heard about many. In her experience she says that the odds for narcissistic personality types killing themselves is VERY low. There are just way too many rich and powerful who, on hearing today's news about Epstein, are very, very relieved. JC

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    Suicide watch: Here's a case where respecting prisoner's rights may have resulted in less protection for the prisoner's life. For example, full-on, surveillance 100-percent of the time might be said to deprive the prisoner of privacy. And stripping a prisoner of clothing and offering no sheet or blanket ( so they can't hang themselves) might be considered cruel and unusual.Our rights sometimes butt up against what needs to be done.



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    So, I'm surprised that he didn't commit suicide by two shots to the back of the head.
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    I’m in the ‘conspiracy ‘ camp. He was offed.
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    Democrat calls for congressional investigation into Epstein death
    In the wake of Epstein’s death, criminal proceedings against him will likely come to an end, though a lawyer representing several of his accusers said they may still bring civil suits against his estate.
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    No worries, the squad is on it.

    An investigation is underway, a spokesperson told HuffPost. Some members of Congress, including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Lois Frankel (D-Fla.) have already begun demanding answers.

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    Dang. I was hoping to see Dershowitz, among many others, twisting in the wind.

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    Where are the charges against his co-abusers? Maxwell, for instance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesCaird View Post
    Let's see: On 8/02 in response to the initial Epstein thread (A Million Pages) I posted "Who wants to bet on the odds for Epstein surviving long enough for trial?" so here we are... This thing really smells. My wife is a high powered psychologist and over 40+ years has seen many, many really bad things and heard about many. In her experience she says that the odds for narcissistic personality types killing themselves is VERY low. There are just way too many rich and powerful who, on hearing today's news about Epstein, are very, very relieved. JC
    I remember that, I can't find the thread and what my response was.

    Being denied bail may have been an issue in his thinking if he did indeed commit suicide.

    But yeah, given the evidence that he would have against the rich and powerful, this stinks. Just yesterday I thought, there was a story about a woman alleging she was slaved out by Epstein to Bill Richardson and Bill Mitchell, her story had some sketchiness to it but on the other hand you would not expect a young girl to remember all details from years ago. If true, high-up people.

    There better be video and review, at least of access to his cell. He could also have been encouraged to commit suicide.

    With him dead, it solves so much for a lot of potential accused, I'm sure he didn't keep a written record of things.
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    Newly released documents -- recruiting at Mar-A-Lago??

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...yyudKYuhL7_jIA
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