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    Default New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    Blue Traveller, built by Wedgeport Boats Ltd., Lower Wedgeport, Nova Scotia, Canada. Launched summer 2018. LOA - 16.76m (55 ft), BOA - 7.62m (25 ft), powered by John Deere. It looks like it is rigged to do longline fishing, possibly gillnet fishing.





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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    In other news, Donald Trump is a Moron.
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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    Ugly looking things both, but I guess the boat is at least efficient at it's job…………….

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    Skuthorp, they are as glamorous as an industrial lorry, and as useful.
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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    the white portion of the topsides is an applique of UMHW sheet?
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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    Yes, protection for the fibreglass topsides from the fishing gear coming aboard. Usually 1/2" thick, thru-bolted with stainless bolts bedded in 3M 5200.
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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    So where's the hole for the wave to get in to flush the bilge?

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    The log-in part of the WBF front page, Garret...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    The log-in part of the WBF front page, Garret...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    The log-in part of the WBF front page, Garret...
    I deserved that for being a wiseass didn't I?
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    Snappy repartee is what its all about, Garret. Keep it clean, keep it witty, and I'm down with it. Let's have some fun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Yes, protection for the fibreglass topsides from the fishing gear coming aboard. Usually 1/2" thick, thru-bolted with stainless bolts bedded in 3M 5200.
    Hey Bob Cleek; a use for 3M 5200!!!
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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    The commercial boatbuilding industry 'round here uses the stuff very generously. Hard to argue with something that works.
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    That's interesting that they use 3M5200.

    I just understood from past feedback that 3M5200 was sacrilege around here. It is hard to remove parts glued down with it. DAMHIKT. But if they have a way to overcome that difficulty I'm curious to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willmarsh3 View Post
    That's interesting that they use 3M5200.

    I just understood from past feedback that 3M5200 was sacrilege around here. It is hard to remove parts glued down with it. DAMHIKT. But if they have a way to overcome that difficulty I'm curious to know.
    Heat & various solvents.

    And - just because some here consider it sacrilege doesn't mean it is on boats of different materials. Actually, I use 5200 below the waterline (cutless, etc.) - just not anywhere that I may want to remove something often.

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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    On my steel boat I used 3M5200 on underwater through holes. If I ever have to replace the through hole it is because the maralon plastic fitting has deteriorated and needs to be cut out with a hole saw.

    But on a cabin top fitting I spent 1 1/2 hours removing something I had glued down with 3M5200. I learned my lesson there.

    Getting back to the Blue Trawler - I'm curious about how the waves flushing the bilge works.
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    But if they have a way to overcome that difficulty I'm curious to know.
    What Garrett said, but also, and depending upon application, a length single-strand stainless wire fishing line held between two dowels like a cheese slicer will slice through and break the bond between a fitting and the substrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willmarsh3 View Post
    On my steel boat I used 3M5200 on underwater through holes. If I ever have to replace the through hole it is because the maralon plastic fitting has deteriorated and needs to be cut out with a hole saw.

    But on a cabin top fitting I spent 1 1/2 hours removing something I had glued down with 3M5200. I learned my lesson there.

    Getting back to the Blue Trawler - I'm curious about how the waves flushing the bilge works.
    Michael was messing with us & referring to flushing the Bilge here at the WBF by posting boat threads instead of political ones.
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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    As far as the boat goes, I'm going with boxy but good.

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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    I have used 5200 in combination with some plastic sheeting to perfectly bed a part (like a skeg maybe). Cover the area with plastic held on with some tape, slather the 5200 liberally and bolt or securely fasten the item. A few screws or bolts to maintain alignment is good.
    When the 5200 is fully cured remove the part, peel off the plastic and reinstall, well bedded with Dolpinite.

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    They use 5200 precisely because it won't let go. These boats see brutal use in horrific conditions - freezing cold, icing up, constant heavy hits from moving gear, etc. By the time they have to take that UHMW plastic sheet off, it will be in pieces. They will take the nuts off the thru bolts and smack 'em with a sledge to drive them out, and usually the 5200 will come with the bolt.

    And, yes, I was playing with words to indicate that a thread about a boat launch would wash some of the stink of politics out of the WBF Bilge.

    Chris, Wedgeport Boats has a pretty good reputation for building tough, well-constructed boats. The boxiness is market-driven; customers want as much deck space as possible in the length-limited hull. This boat is not rigged for lobster fishing, but it is a lobster boat hull, merely reconfigured on deck for a different fishery.
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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    Thank you Michael. Keep on flushing. I'll help out where I can.
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    I had no idea that anything would stick UHMW ,so thanks for the information.Keep flushing!

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    I don't know how well it actually sticks to UHMW plastic, John, but it at least sticks to the bolts and washers through the plastic enough to provide a watertight seal.
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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    So where's the hole for the wave to get in to flush the bilge?

    It’s like a self bailing cockpit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    I deserved that for being a wiseass didn't I?
    You were not alone, but I kept my (virtual) mouth shut.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Michael was messing with us & referring to flushing the Bilge here at the WBF by posting boat threads instead of political ones.
    You ever seen a brick of a boat like that being launched? It makes a wave that behaves like tsunami.

    First the draw down and then a mad rush as the spectators try to outrun the wave coming up the berth.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    I don't know how well it actually sticks to UHMW plastic, John, but it at least sticks to the bolts and washers through the plastic enough to provide a watertight seal.
    My experience trying to bed UMHW with 5200 is that it alone doesn't adhere. Screws and bolts hold the UMHW sheet or strips in place, as mmd says. The 5200 might keep water out from between the UMHW and subsurface but that's about it. Might as well use a sealant if that's the intent. Maybe Louis Sauzedde has had different results when framing boats with the material.

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    It is easy to remove parts glued on with 5200 when you aren't worried about a little damage to either part. It's why I enjoyed working on a steel boat. Anything could he fixed with a torch, hammer, and welder..

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Meachen View Post
    I had no idea that anything would stick UHMW ,so thanks for the information.Keep flushing!
    3M have a range of adhesives for "Low Surface Energy" plastics e.g. https://www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/compan...3194225&rt=rud
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    ^ Yep.

    I machined fiddle rails for the helm top and rigging station on my boat out of King Starboard. Screwed and glued with Scotch Weld. Starboard expands quite a bit, so the standard intel is to through bolt and bore oversize holes. That's fine for a cabinet door,say, but not great for anything that will be grabbed and bear weight. Hence the glue. 12 years and going strong.

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    Default Re: New commercial fishing boat launched, wave flushes bilge

    Actually the Blue Traveler is now out in BC working for MOWI...(Marine Harvest). I got a close look at it about 2 weeks ago. Pretty impressive....

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    Transporting a 7.62m-wide boat across the continent must have been a challenge. I wonder if it was trucked or shipped as deck cargo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    I don't know how well it actually sticks to UHMW plastic, John, but it at least sticks to the bolts and washers through the plastic enough to provide a watertight seal.
    I've never actually seen 5200.I have seen a tube of 4200 but for sealing UHMW I have used Sikaflex 221 and it seems to have the same qualities as 5200.

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