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    I like the hull of the Friendship sloops.

    With the mast, stepped well forward the rig appears to be more of a cat boat rig.

    Wonder what it would look like and importantly how it would sail if :
    The main sail was shorter on the foot,
    The mast was moved aft a few feet,
    A stay sail was added to fill in the space created by moving the mast aft.


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    Default Re: Friendship sloops

    I imagine that the best settup was worked out long ago.

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    I'm just guessing here, but I'd bet that the forward placement of the mast was originally done to provide more working room when they were used for lobstering. I'm sure it would be possible to adjust the sail plan to step the mast further aft, but then it wouldn't be a Friendship Sloop it would be some sort of clipper-bow cutter. Pretty, no doubt. But not a Friendship Sloop.

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    Default Re: Friendship sloops

    The friendship sloops are a lobstering boat. They have that rig so they can heave to very effectively while hauling traps under sail. Messing up that balance might be good for more sail choices at sea, but that isn't what the boats were built for.

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    Default Re: Friendship sloops

    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    I like the hull of the Friendship sloops.

    With the mast, stepped well forward the rig appears to be more of a cat boat rig.

    Wonder what it would look like and importantly how it would sail if :
    The main sail was shorter on the foot,
    The mast was moved aft a few feet,
    A stay sail was added to fill in the space created by moving the mast aft.


    Freindship.jpg
    It is the US definition of a sloop. The UK definition of cutter is gaff main, forestaysail and jibs. Where as in the US it is about how far forward the mast is stepped. Forward for sloop, further back for cutter.
    You could move the mast back and set a smaller mainsail to achieve sail balance.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: Friendship sloops

    Some Friendships are later developments of the originals. They are more sloop like in their rig. I owned a Pemaquid replica that had been converted to a yawl, she was very handy.

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    Default Re: Friendship sloops

    The working Friendships also had a wet well amidships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahp View Post
    The working Friendships also had a wet well amidships.
    They were also unique in their construction. No compass timber was available, everything came from the saw mill. So the backbone was assembled from short anchor stock pieces bolted together. The beam shelf was the same. Flat and wide and bolted together from curved anchor stocks cut from straight wide beams.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: Friendship sloops

    Bruce King designed a raised deck "Friendship" style cutter that sails very well. Known as the "King Cutter" I belive only about fifty were made. I did the mold work for the trail boards.
    Jay

    Last edited by Jay Greer; 08-02-2019 at 02:38 PM.

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