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    guys, the pile on of alan is unbecoming

    seriously just because he’s unwilling to elaborately criticize a politician is not a just reason for accusing him of being racist
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Don't much care whether or not you have a wood boat, but if you're OK with what Trump said, you are OK with racism. And just being a liar (3 out of 4 were born in the US).

    Generally, people who are OK with others being racist are racist themselves.
    Not necessarily. They can simply be trolls having fun talking about all manner of hot button topics to get people riled up. Racism, politics, whatever. The topic is a vehicle for abuse of some degree, self or inflicted. They aren’t right in the head.

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    you guys do know that alan is black, right?
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    right on script fellas. great job!
    There you go, a proper peanut gallery comment avoiding any content required to address the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    yeah, my values are racism...

    PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
    Not everyone is racist but, Trump's disciples usually are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    you guys do know that alan is black, right?

    so that makes him a black troll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    guys, the pile on of alan is unbecoming

    seriously just because he’s unwilling to elaborately criticize a politician is not a just reason for accusing him of being racist
    I’m not calling him a racist. He’s a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    you guys do know that alan is black, right?
    I didn't know the Republican party folk allowed blacks under their tent.Learn something everyday it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    you guys do know that alan is black, right?
    Wow.

    Talk about voting against one's own interests!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    you guys do know that alan is black, right?
    This is him, no?
    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...dle&highlight=
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    guys, the pile on of alan is unbecoming

    seriously just because he’s unwilling to elaborately criticize a politician is not a just reason for accusing him of being racist
    There is a FB meme about that.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    i'm asian. just look at japanese food. can't fake that.

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    Right. Making asian food is genetic. Talk to my kids about that.
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    for nature cannot be fooled."

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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    I don't know what cancel culture means. I asked what kind of boat you have. Two years ago I recalled you saying that you don't have a wooden boat.

    My impression is that you don't care about much at all, and are here for yucks regarding people who do care.
    The LAST reason for being here is NOT a wooden boat or anything resembling a wooden boat. He wants to scramble eggs, play the role of agitator and annoy true boat owners. He's doing a good job actually. I hope the pay check ks from the GOP have increased more than the minimum wage (federal) and it's worth it. Granted, I don't own one now but, my last two boats were woden. Some here even sailed on one or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    I didn't know the Republican party folk allowed blacks under their tent.Learn something everyday it seems.
    token?

    Last edited by Paul Pless; 07-15-2019 at 02:07 PM.
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    "true boat owners".... more cancel culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    I didn't know the Republican party folk allowed blacks under their tent.Learn something everyday it seems.

    I will notify my black republican friends right away.

    Yeah, they exist.

    Rich (or people who think they’re rich), greedy people can be any color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    "true boat owners".... more cancel culture.
    I have only owned two wooden boats.

    I’ve built more than 4 dozen “wooden” “boats”, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    token?

    That's what I'd call him! Please note, he doesn't seem to be around anymore. What happened piss of his handlers?

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    Cancel culture

    Cancel culture describes a form of boycott in which someone (usually a celebrity) who has shared a questionable or unpopular opinion on social media is "cancelled".


    Celebrity. LMAO

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    Kinda like when Sky Blue revoked the "discussion privileges" of folks he couldn't win arguments with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I have only owned two wooden boats.

    I’ve built more than 4 dozen “wooden” “boats”, though.

    Peace,
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    Most of the boats I had were pre 1960. Fibergalss became easier to use in boats after that. A few lead the charge; a Galaxy 32 footer and a few others. Turnabouts and Stars I owned/ sailed were built in the forties. I dis not count them, I've owned two woodies myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    Most of the boats I had were pre 1960. Fibergalss became easier to use in boats after that. A few lead the charge; a Galaxy 32 footer and a few others. Turnabouts and Stars I owned/ sailed were built in the forties. I dis not count them, I've owned two woodies myself.
    I’ve owned precisely two boats I haven’t made. Neither wooden. One is a “wooden” “boat” I am supposed to be rescuing, but have so far only saved and kept safe.
    The other was grp.

    The rest? SOF and plywood. Well, except the carvel/cross planked skiff, and the lapstrake canoe. They were real wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John of Phoenix View Post
    Cancel culture

    Cancel culture describes a form of boycott in which someone (usually a celebrity) who has shared a questionable or unpopular opinion on social media is "cancelled".


    Celebrity. LMAO
    weird, who does the canceling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I’ve owned precisely two boats I haven’t made. Neither wooden. One is a “wooden” “boat” I am supposed to be rescuing, but have so far only saved and kept safe.
    The other was grp.

    The rest? SOF and plywood. Well, except the carvel/cross planked skiff, and the lapstrake canoe. They were real wood.

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    i dunno if you're making the grade of "real boat owner" rob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I’ve owned precisely two boats I haven’t made. Neither wooden. One is a “wooden” “boat” I am supposed to be rescuing, but have so far only saved and kept safe.
    The other was grp.

    The rest? SOF and plywood. Well, except the carvel/cross planked skiff, and the lapstrake canoe. They were real wood.

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    Robert, all I can say is that I grew up in a Maritime Museum, I lived wood. Only fiberglass boat I had was a Boston Whaler Serial No. 4143 and first one on Lake Otsego. Only voyage to the dark side!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    i dunno if you're making the grade of "real boat owner" rob.
    No, I don’t.

    My stuff is all crap, and know it.

    The dozens of kids I’ve introduced to boats and boating and “boat building” really don’t seem to mind.

    Seeing a inner city kid in a lake for the first time rowing a skiff is pretty cool. Even better when they made it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    No, I don’t.

    My stuff is all crap, and know it.

    The dozens of kids I’ve introduced to boats and boating and “boat building” really don’t seem to mind.

    Seeing a inner city kid in a lake for the first time rowing a skiff is pretty cool. Even better when they made it.

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    that's cool. i wonder if my kids appreciate getting to grow up on the river....

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    Robert, all I can say is that I grew up in a Maritime Museum, I lived wood. Only fiberglass boat I had was a Boston Whaler Serial No. 4143 and first one on Lake Otsego. Only voyage to the dark side!
    Awesome.

    I literally grew up on a hay farm, then moved to the ghetto, where I stayed until I escaped, briefly, during and after college.
    I learned about boats in college, and started building them.

    Never stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanMc View Post
    that's cool. i wonder if my kids appreciate getting to grow up on the river....
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    Mind, we ain’t changing the world, here...

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    I disagree. How do you think the world gets changed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    I disagree. How do you think the world gets changed?

    i agree with your disagreement. rob does good work to make positive changes.

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    Source here. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck . . . .

    Republicans Baffled Why Trump Keeps Saying Racist Things
    By Jonathan Chait

    In 2015, Lindsey Graham called Donald Trump “a race-baiting, xenophobic religious bigot.” In the intervening years, Trump has done nothing to refute this characterization, yet Graham has refashioned himself as Trump’s favorite senatorial pet. In the wake of Trump’s latest racist tirade, Graham appeared on Fox & Friends to deliver a supportive pep talk to the president. “We all know that AOC and this crowd are a bunch of communists,” he ranted, in a performance so obsequious that a delighted Trump tweeted out quotations of it in four parts.

    The most revealing line in Graham’s commentary, surrounded by repeated smears of Trump’s targets, was his brief exhortation of the president to slightly alter his rhetoric. “Aim higher! We don’t need to know anything about them personally, talk about their policies,” he urged, like a dad motivating his son to go out there and be the best darn racist demagogue he can be.

    This interlude in Graham’s homage to Trumpism was obviously so short and mild, Trump wasn’t bothered by it, and possibly didn’t even notice. But it has become a rhetorical trope for Trump’s Republican enablers. When faced with evidence of Trump’s racism, they prefer either to defend him or to say nothing, or, should neither of those options prove tenable, to say as little as possible. (“I’m working as hard as I can to reduce health-care costs. I’m not giving a daily commentary on the president’s tweets,” said Senator Lamar Alexander. “I haven’t read that but I’ll check it out,” promised Senator Richard Shelby.)

    When forced to express discomfort, they will disassociate his latest outrage from his character. Trump may have said something racist, his allies will concede, but Trump cannot be a racist. “We must be better than comments like these,” urged Representative Paul Mitchell. “He should take it down,” suggested Senator Susan Collins. (Trump had already affirmed the comments he tweeted before Collins offered this suggestion.) “Just because the so-called squad constantly insults and attacks the president isn’t a reason to adopt their unacceptable tactics. There is plenty to say about how destructive House Democrats’ policies would be for our economy, our health care system, and our security,” offered Senator Roy Blunt.

    Like Graham, these Trump supporters are mixing disappointment with forward-looking optimism. You screwed up, champ, but next time you can do better! Trump’s comments are simply a moment in time, with no past and no future. In reality, Trump is not going to take down his comments. He’s not going to do better, aim higher, or any other positive-sounding alternative his Republican enablers offer up. Trump’s career began by systematically excluding African-Americans from his father’s housing projects and relentlessly defying federal government orders to stop. He whipped up hysteria against innocent boys accused of rape in Central Park, and has continued to falsely insist upon their guilt. “Donald Trump makes racist comments all the time. Once you know him, he speaks his mind about race very openly,” says Jack O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City. Another former Trump employee, Michael Cohen, has supplied many more such examples. He keeps saying racist things because he believes them.

    Republicans usually avoid acknowledging Trump’s long history of discriminatory actions (it’s the past!) or private racist comments (hearsay!) But because Trump is not clever enough to gauge the point at which his racist insinuations cross the line into the kind of overt racism that will discomfit his party, he sometimes does it in public, too. Famous examples include his insistence that a Mexican-American judge is inherently biased, the Nazi demonstrators in Charlottesville included “very fine people,” and his recent attribution of foreignness to nonwhite Democrats in Congress.

    Representative Mike Turner has gone further than almost any other Republican by using the word “racist” to describe the president’s comments. But even here, he holds out the phantasmal prospect of repentance. Trump’s “tweets from this weekend,” he scolds, “were racist and he should apologize.” But Trump is not going to apologize. So what happens then? The answer is that they will continue to support him, perhaps disapprove of his next public racist outburst, and the one after that, repeating the ritual as many times as necessary, until he has finally passed from the public stage. Their ability to identify patterns in his rhetoric and actions, and to cast judgment on his character, ended when he won the election. Trump used to be a race-baiting, xenophobic religious bigot. Now he is president of the United States.
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