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    So, after a couple of days of niggly chest pain, and feeling a bit light headed today as well, Dr Google told me not to be an arse, and get it checked out. F**k, f**k, f**k, f**k!
    Anyway, three hours, an ECG, the most comprehensive blood test I've ever had, and assorted other tests - the doc was confidently able to tell me that it definitely wasn't a cardiac problem.
    Cost me $90, at an after-hours clinic. Damn that socialised health care!

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    Big fan of socialized medicine! Two open heart surgeries in May last year. Cost to me was zero. I have macular degeneration so I have injections every two months. The drugs cost 3K but I pay $ 12.22 plus an admin fee of $ 50.00. A friend in Florida went blind from the same condition because she couldn’t afford treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epoxyboy View Post
    Cost me $90, at an after-hours clinic. Damn that socialised health care!

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    meh, a similar visit would have cost me about twenty bucks; of course Kat and I have an insurance policy between the two of us valued at about $8K per year. . .


    the above was meant to be sarcastic

    Good to know youíre doing fine. I had one of those scares not long ago due to a post surgery complication. Trouble breathing, weak, tightness in chest, mega headache. went to a trauma center, I had never been to one before it was crazy. Docís asking me questions, nurse checking my bp; nurse turns to doc says, ď200 over 180Ē. Doc says, ď that explains the headache ď

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    200 over 180 sounds a bit scary. I have been checking my bp daily since I got out of the Heart Institute and I freak out if it is above 135. This morning it is 111/65.

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    Would have cost me zero, but I pay $310 a month in premiums to get to that state. Medicare is not cheap, but given that my medical bills last year were $200,000+ I am OK with the premiums.

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    mine is normally in the 130/80 range
    that day sure got my attention though
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    The cost/return on my health insurance and Medicare so far have been WAY WAY out of whack. Of course at age 75, that could change tomorrow. But to this point I have been subsidizing the rest of you sickos all my life.

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    End to end oscopy in March and top end oscopy this week, they had the nerve to charge me five bucks a pop for parking.

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    Would have cost me hundreds, that's after a $1450/month insurance premium.

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    That 90 bucks was it, we spend zip on health insurance.

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    Did I ever tell you about when I broke my femur.
    Hospital stay, X-rays, Surgery, physio, ambulances back and forth, medication.
    Cost? All covered by the NHS, nothing to pay at point of delivery. If I could not find street parking near the hospital I might have paid £1.50 to park in the hospital car park.
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    Peters biggest cost for his brain surgery was the parking, or so I remember he posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob winter View Post
    Big fan of socialized medicine! Two open heart surgeries in May last year. Cost to me was zero. I have macular degeneration so I have injections every two months. The drugs cost 3K but I pay $ 12.22 plus an admin fee of $ 50.00. A friend in Florida went blind from the same condition because she couldn’t afford treatment.
    That's more than sad. It's inhumane. Health care for the wealthy/employed. Nice to know all the rich white guys here have good cover. Makes me feel all warm and soft inside.

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    2016, had a heart attack and my only cost was $900.00 for 35 min. $14000 helicopter ride.

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    We pay an ambulance premium of under $A100 a year which covers all ambulance matters, including aircraft and boats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epoxyboy View Post
    So, after a couple of days of niggly chest pain, and feeling a bit light headed today as well, Dr Google told me not to be an arse, and get it checked out. F**k, f**k, f**k, f**k!
    Anyway, three hours, an ECG, the most comprehensive blood test I've ever had, and assorted other tests - the doc was confidently able to tell me that it definitely wasn't a cardiac problem.
    Cost me $90, at an after-hours clinic. Damn that socialised health care!
    The evil part is you think it cost you $90.

    In January or February I ad 2 strokes. One in my sleep left me with a blind spot in my vision. The one the next night caused me to call 911 for a ride to the hospital. 2 days and 2 nights of care. They did not find the cause. (They did find some minor damage in my brain from the strokes, but it is all now resolved.)

    I paid a couple hundred dollars. Medicare paid $30K. Medicare was able to pay because I and many others paid premiums to allow Medicare to have the money to do so.

    Had I not had insurance, I would not have gone to the hospital and the outcome would have been the same. One might say that the $30K was wasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    The evil part is you think it cost you $90.

    In January or February I ad 2 strokes. One in my sleep left me with a blind spot in my vision. The one the next night caused me to call 911 for a ride to the hospital. 2 days and 2 nights of care. They did not find the cause. (They did find some minor damage in my brain from the strokes, but it is all now resolved.)

    I paid a couple hundred dollars. Medicare paid $30K. Medicare was able to pay because I and many others paid premiums to allow Medicare to have the money to do so.

    Had I not had insurance, I would not have gone to the hospital and the outcome would have been the same. One might say that the $30K was wasted.

    hippie socialism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    meh, a similar visit would have cost me about twenty bucks; of course Kat and I have an insurance policy between the two of us valued at about $8K per year.
    Try more like $10K. I donít have my pay stub in front of me, but, if memory serves, I pay around $170 per a month in before tax dollars to cover us. The company pays several times that.
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    So....uh...what was the problem if it wasn't your ticker?
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    I spent a week in the cardiac unit a few years ago to be told it wasn't my heart. They were sufficiently convinced for a while that they told me straight out that I had had a heart attack. THAT got my attention. I'm usually pretty careful these days. I slip up and make mistakes but I'm pretty cautious for the most part.
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    The max out of pocket for me and Paul this year is $7000, witch we will hit this year. Things need to change!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    That's more than sad. It's inhumane. Health care for the wealthy/employed. Nice to know all the rich white guys here have good cover. Makes me feel all warm and soft inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.A Marche View Post
    Bob’s Canadian, so is entitled to the same care whether rich, poor, blue or green.
    Yeah I was referring to his friend in Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    The evil part is you think it cost you $90.

    In January or February I ad 2 strokes. One in my sleep left me with a blind spot in my vision. The one the next night caused me to call 911 for a ride to the hospital. 2 days and 2 nights of care. They did not find the cause. (They did find some minor damage in my brain from the strokes, but it is all now resolved.)

    I paid a couple hundred dollars. Medicare paid $30K. Medicare was able to pay because I and many others paid premiums to allow Medicare to have the money to do so.

    Had I not had insurance, I would not have gone to the hospital and the outcome would have been the same. One might say that the $30K was wasted.
    Oh, I know full well that my taxes payed the bulk of the true cost. I could have gone to the hospital A&E, and then my out of pocket would have been zero, and the entire cost would have been picked up by the taxpayer.
    That option is open to anyone in NZ, whether they pay taxes or not. Here, we don't have make the horrid decision that seeking medical help is simply not an affordable option, due to the lack of insurance. That people in the US consider this healthcare model to be a bad thing is beyond bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domesticated_Mr. Know It All View Post
    So....uh...what was the problem if it wasn't your ticker?
    Doc suggested it may just be a rib-sternum thing. Fk knows, but at least I have some certainty that the bilge pump isn't going to cut out on me, at some highly inconvenient moment. We'll see how things go over the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    The evil part is you think it cost you $90.

    In January or February I ad 2 strokes. One in my sleep left me with a blind spot in my vision. The one the next night caused me to call 911 for a ride to the hospital. 2 days and 2 nights of care. They did not find the cause. (They did find some minor damage in my brain from the strokes, but it is all now resolved.)

    I paid a couple hundred dollars. Medicare paid $30K. Medicare was able to pay because I and many others paid premiums to allow Medicare to have the money to do so.

    Had I not had insurance, I would not have gone to the hospital and the outcome would have been the same. One might say that the $30K was wasted.
    Glad to hear you are better, but you sound as though you think insurance is a bad thing. The only real differences between a national system & private insurance are: 1) it's spread over a greater # of people, 2) overhead costs seem to be lower - mostly due to lack of profits being built in & 3) people are not turned away for capricious reasons.

    So - of course a healthy person subsidizes one with a heart attack. A driver with no accidents subsidizes one who has an accident. Should we stop auto insurance? Of course that comparison brings up a question: why is it that auto insurance is a competitive market & health insurance is not?
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