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    Quote Originally Posted by isla View Post
    Sweet mother of God etc...

    Dude, the Bay City Rollers were SCOTTISH. I'm sure that Scots, and long-time residents like me, apologize sincerely for letting them loose on an unsuspecting world. Hint: It's the tartan that gives it away

    I threw that in for Andy, you know how the Scott's are ignored.lol

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    Trump throws a bit of a paddy on twitter- what a surprise. And tells May she should have listened to him.
    Annoyed by the truth, O Stable Genius?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48914294

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    It's bizarre that Trump believes the ambassador is not allowed to criticise Trump in secret, but he (Trump) is allowed to criticise May in public.

    A classic example of the hypocrisy and dishonesty of the man.

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    So, the British government apologizes for speaking the truth in a private communication?

    They should just hunt down the leak. It is an internal matter. No apology is required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    It's bizarre that Trump believes the ambassador is not allowed to criticise Trump in secret, but he (Trump) is allowed to criticise May in public.

    A classic example of the hypocrisy and dishonesty of the man.
    Classic example of Trump's mental state.

    The messages were internal and ambassadors should be candid in relating what they see in the country in which they're serving.

    It's not as if we have not heard the same observations before: Rex Tillerson for example
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    Exceptionalism.
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    Well, Trump won't deal with this ambassador now that he's been called inept. The ambassador should have kissed up to him like Kim does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    I threw that in for Andy, you know how the Scott's are ignored.lol
    Trump doesn't only ignore them he screwed them to build one of his golf courses and destroying the habitat at the same time. Luckily, I hear his club isn'r doing very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I can agree with that, I expect our ambassador is reporting similarly, but the Government is welded politically to the US. Incompetence is a dangerous thing in the CinC of the biggest military on the planet. Wilful incompetence even more so.
    Our defence analysts are warning that we'd better increase our spending, and change the emphasis and equipment from projection of power with the reliance on US support, to the exclusion of whatever threats we face in the future as we should no longer rely on the US to bail us out.
    We had a couple of Chinese gunboats arrive (un-officially) unannounced recently, and there's another on it's way at present.
    Very unlikely. Isn't our ambassador still Joe Hockey? He probably actually does think Trump is a stable genius! Actually, compared to Joe Hockey, he probably is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    And nasty. greedy, thoughtless, feckless, paranoid, entitled.
    Name calling, personal insults, I thought diplomats were supposed to be diplomatic, o well TDS sets in anywhere unexpected.

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    Yes, bobbys, there is nothing like a diplomat.
    And the specialist in name-calling and personal insulting, Trump, is nothing like a diplomat.
    Glad we agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Name calling, personal insults, I thought diplomats were supposed to be diplomatic, o well TDS sets in anywhere unexpected.
    If you thought that, you were wrong. Diplomats are supposed to tell it as they see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Name calling, personal insults, I thought diplomats were supposed to be diplomatic, o well TDS sets in anywhere unexpected.
    Trump publicly used personal insults against May, so it takes a revolting level of hypocrisy to complain about the private comments of a diplomat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    Trump publicly used personal insults against May, so it takes a revolting level of hypocrisy to complain about the private comments of a diplomat.
    Bobbys will be happy with that. He is a proven hypocrite by his posts on the Falklands Islanders right to self determination.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Public vs. private comments are a distinction too fine for the likes of bobbys.
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    At least he didn't lay an egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    If you thought that, you were wrong. Diplomats are supposed to tell it as they see it.
    I bet the libs here would have a cow if our ambassorders talked trash., lucky thing they were picked for honesty, grace and diplomacy. Trump again ....winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Bobbys will be happy with that. He is a proven hypocrite by his posts on the Falklands Islanders right to self determination.
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    I bet the libs here would have a cow if our ambassorders talked trash., lucky thing they were picked for honesty, grace and diplomacy. Trump again ....winning.
    They were picked because they probably gave HUGE donations to Trump. Same with his choice of cabinet members bobbys. Usually unfit for the job they have to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    How so?
    He most likely doesn't have a clue about the Falklands or it's history. I was in the UK during that quasi war and, at least I have a lot more than a clue.

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    Still bad mouthing.
    And confirming what a vindictive incompetent moron he is.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48921243

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    Quote Originally Posted by birlinn View Post
    Still bad mouthing.
    And confirming what a vindictive incompetent moron he is.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48921243
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...59442885185536

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    @realDonaldTrump
    Here's where trump spends 3 days having a tantrum because the UK ambassador called him insecure and yet never realizes the extent to which he authenticates the said opinion...

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    Libs long for the Bush days when he took it like a pansy thinking one could take the higher moral ground with
    Liberals...

    Libs are confounded trump gives it back..

    I dont blame him being mad after the Steele fake dossier and m16 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...59442885185536

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    Here's where trump spends 3 days having a tantrum because the UK ambassador called him insecure and yet never realizes the extent to which he authenticates the said opinion...
    It's painful and embarrassing to watch someone so insecure and so clueless.


    Is anyone surprised that Trump is acting as he did and is still acting.

    After all, here is someone who needs to tell the world, again and again, that he's a genius

    What an embarrassment for our country
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    But, he's a stable genius!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    But, he's a stable genius!
    Anyone who has to tell you he's a genius, or stable, or rich, or good looking is none of them
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    cadet bone spurs rockin' his own "diplomacy".

    President Donald Trump resumed his verbal assault on the United Kingdom’s ambassador to Washington on Tuesday, ridiculing the envoy as a “pompous fool” before drawing an across-the-pond rebuke from the British foreign secretary.

    “The wacky Ambassador that the U.K. foisted upon the United States is not someone we are thrilled with, a very stupid guy,” Trump wrote online, after threatening the day before to terminate the administration’s diplomatic relationship with him.

    Sweet Mother of God reds are Stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    It's painful and embarrassing to watch someone so insecure and so clueless.


    Is anyone surprised that Trump is acting as he did and is still acting.

    After all, here is someone who needs to tell the world, again and again, that he's a genius

    What an embarrassment for our country
    Indeed. I can imagine thousands of officers and diplomats head in hands praying for this all to end. Set aside his celebration of ignorance and blatant gas lighting he simply dishonors the office and country acting like a reactive and defensive child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Libs long for the Bush days when he took it like a pansy thinking one could take the higher moral ground with
    Liberals...

    Libs are confounded trump gives it back..

    I dont blame him being mad after the Steele fake dossier and m16 .
    So because some people from England wrote things in secret documents, it's OK for Trump to insult the leaders of other major nations?

    Really? Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    How so?
    Because you have ignored the fact that the Falkland Islanders have the right to self determination and have used that right to stay with the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    Name calling, personal insults, I thought diplomats were supposed to be diplomatic, o well TDS sets in anywhere unexpected.
    No, and it is hypocritical of you to claim that US diplomats are. For instance, leaks have shown that US diplomats called a British figure "a particularly unpleasant person"; said that a country whose leader Trump admires is "a virtual mafia state"; they insulted the president of another major western country as being thin-skinned, etc; accused another president of corruption, and so forth.

    It is untruthful to claim that US diplomats are "diplomatic" in their private correspondence. It is hypocritical for you to complain when British diplomats are blunt, but not when American diplomats are blunt.

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    As if Trump along with everybody he knows has never thought, said or written a nasty thing about the Brits, the Royal Family, or English food. But Joe Cool has to prove he is the top insulter because nobody can insult like Trump. And then, just to inadvertently prove he has a point, there's Boris Johnson.

    Bizarre? Way beyond bizarre. As Captain Miller said to Sgt. Horvath on the bridge in Normandy, "Things have taken a turn for the surreal."


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    Whiny little. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris249 View Post
    No, and it is hypocritical of you to claim that US diplomats are. For instance, leaks have shown that US diplomats called a British figure "a particularly unpleasant person"; said that a country whose leader Trump admires is "a virtual mafia state"; they insulted the president of another major western country as being thin-skinned, etc; accused another president of corruption, and so forth.

    It is untruthful to claim that US diplomats are "diplomatic" in their private correspondence. It is hypocritical for you to complain when British diplomats are blunt, but not when American diplomats are blunt.
    Exactly. Malice need play no part. It remains a diplomat's job to report back to their government a frank assessments of the situation in country. Being hacked is of course awkward and embarrassing, especially when the documents reveal the inescapable truth.

    But Don Cool always doubles down. Ready, fire, aim.
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