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    Default Airplanes that didn't quite make the mark.

    Everyone is so serious. In most cases, the quality of workmanship is visibly apparant.
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    Interesting stuff, thanks!

    I wonder why early aircraft designs always had the pilots sitting out in open cockpits?
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    Or, in the case of Santos-Dumont's first flights, standing in a basket like a balloon pilot.

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    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    That picture boggles my mind for one reason in particular.

    How much MONEY does that picture represent? I seriously donít think I can even comprehend the number.

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    Drove past Boeing Field (King County Airport) last week. It looked like a parking lot.
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    Don’t get me started on those Revolutionary War fighter planes.
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    hush_tsr-2001.jpg


    To say nothing of the P1154
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    google project halitosis

    nuclear powered hot air jet engines

    drawbacks included the 11 tons of lead shielding around the cockpit and the 12 inch thick thick leaded glass cockpit windows

    not to mention the 35,000 pound air cooled nuclear reactor in the bomb bay

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    Boeing built good airplanes. And Douglas built good airplanes.

    But when they merged, they did not get the best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    google project halitosis

    nuclear powered hot air jet engines

    drawbacks included the 11 tons of lead shielding around the cockpit and the 12 inch thick thick leaded glass cockpit windows

    not to mention the 35,000 pound air cooled nuclear reactor in the bomb bay

    Some of the experiments with nuclear powered flight happened in Dawsonville Georgia. Today there are some ruins left of this effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    hush_tsr-2001.jpg


    To say nothing of the P1154
    The TSR2, Australia thought about it but we bought the F111 instead. The F111 replaced the Canberra as a long range bomber capable of delivering an atomic bomb, should the need arise. Of course we would have had to beg off our lords and masters first. We have for some obscure reason replaced the F111 with the non long range F35.
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    The Westland P12.
    A STOL ground attack aircraft, with four machine guns in the rear turret, and two 20mm forward firing cannons.
    Seemed like a good idea in 1940; it handled fairly well too.

    Westland Wendover.jpg

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    The TSR2, while cancelled, provided good knowledge and technology that would be used shortly thereafter on Concorde.

    Video, things of interest: The helicopter airplane seemed to lift off quick but then stalled; my guess is the liftoff due to ground effect, after that, the lifting props actually interfered with flow around the wing and reducing the normal wing lift. The flying wings were just minimized fuselages but still had tail arms. The round parasol wing works, and has uses for when compactness is needed, but is very low aspect ratio so more drag than a conventional wing, and not as efficient as a delta wing. The PBY wing is referred to as a parasol wing due to the similar fashion of its mounting to the fuselage, with large separation.
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    Default Re: Airplanes that didn't quite make the mark.

    The initial studies for the XB-70 Valkyrie looked at all sorts of exotic fuels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Meachen View Post
    The initial studies for the XB-70 Valkyrie looked at all sorts of exotic fuels.

    Amazing engineering. Achieved what it was designed to do, just the mission profile changed from high and fast to low penetration, so was immediately obsolete.
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    Weird! Nuclear power? But still incorporates the engine plan of a B-36? ("six turning; four burning")

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    google project halitosis

    nuclear powered hot air jet engines

    drawbacks included the 11 tons of lead shielding around the cockpit and the 12 inch thick thick leaded glass cockpit windows

    not to mention the 35,000 pound air cooled nuclear reactor in the bomb bay


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