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    Default Western flyer wowsers!

    Last edited by DeniseO30; 08-20-2019 at 03:15 PM.
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    Default Re: Western flyer wowsers!

    I do love good doug fir, which is why I am a bit upset that so much of the best of it will be used to re plank an old fishing boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    I do love good doug fir, which is why I am a bit upset that so much of the best of it will be used to re plank an old fishing boat.
    Bro.

    When they were rebuilding the Thayer, my kids and I got aboard and got to tool around a bit.

    The fir in that ship is knee buckling. Like, more clear, tight fir in one, single ceiling plank than I’ve ever touched elsewhere.

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    C.A. Thayer...A vessel which played an active part, being a LUMBER SCHOONER,in the actual destruction of old growth forests.
    I breathed a sigh of relief when the Wawona was scrapped.
    My knees tend to buckle at the thought of dozens of small boats that could be built instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    C.A. Thayer...A vessel which played an active part, being a LUMBER SCHOONER,in the actual destruction of old growth forests.
    I breathed a sigh of relief when the Wawona was scrapped.
    My knees tend to buckle at the thought of dozens of small boats that could be built instead.
    Yeah.

    I was just talking about the wood.

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    Yes they are using some nice clear sticks of DF, but with ring count that low it's not old growth.

    youngdougfir.jpg

    Like this:

    IMG_20190816_161859.jpg

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    He pretty much explained in his narrative at the beginning of some or one of the videos, it's just an incredible amount of wood. I think it came down to Old growth has become almost unattainable for the average builder.

    What would you have them do? those trees are now pretty much protected for the sizes in the amounts that they need!

    So far all I'm seeing is lots of negativity. and I thought I was in the negative Nelly
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    About the search for lumber here.
    https://youtu.be/HAPtBgOXEik
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    So far all I'm seeing is lots of negativity.
    ???

    My point was that they're not using old growth Doug fir in this project. Harvesting on a 100 year cycle is a lot more sustainable than cutting 1,000 year old trees. It's still good wood.

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    I just thought some of y'all would enjoy the restoration of this big old boat, seems I was wrong!

    Apparently somebody don't like that they are using carriage bolts on the double sawn frames, and did a comparison to Tally Ho & Leo lol

    Can't imagine where the money is even coming from on this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseO30 View Post
    I just thought some of y'all would enjoy the restoration of this big old boat, seems I was wrong!

    Apparently somebody don't like that they are using carriage bolts on the double sawn frames, and did a comparison to Tally Ho & Leo lol

    Can't imagine where the money is even coming from on this one!
    I'm enjoying it. Nice to see the old boat come back to life. When I build a boat, I don't use junk wood. Why should these guys? Doug fir is renewable so I don't doubt that there will be wood there for future generations.
    I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.

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    I suspect that the 150 year old DF they are using is a lot more sustainable than the sepele they plan to substitute in when the DF runs dry.

    Its a cool boat, I'm glad they are restoring it.

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    Looking at the size of those timbers I think.... Icebreaker!
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    Just finished reading Log from the Sea of Cortez. About to start on The Western Flyer, all about the boat itself. Was in Port Townsend on Saturday and had hoped to make a pilgrimmage to see her in person but had to head out early to join the crush trying to get in through the locks on Sunday. Someday though... I love that boat and honestly I can't think of a better place to put some decent DF. (Bruce, I know you'd rather shave it into popsicle sticks and glue it back together in a boat-shape but that's not the only way to roll y'know!)
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    I went through the "Edwin Fox" in Picton, NZ.
    She is reported as the 5th oldest ship in existence.
    Standing down below you are surrounded by Teak in huge sizes, 12" x 18" ribs at almost solid centres. The ceiling is 14" x 2".
    All I could see was how many yachts could be built from the salvage of her!
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