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    vedy cool, wish she were coming closer
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    Doable. Anyone up for a drive or a ride? Camping in the great American West, Motel 6s and a brew pub in Salt Lake City.

    cheyenne road trip.jpg
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    mormon's drink beer?
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    Ask me! I've got my Leatherman!

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    Oh yeah Paul. Happening scene there.

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    I say it needs a sentimental journey back to Troy NY where it was made.

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    It's HUGE and it was designed for traffic over the Wasatch mountains. Being such a specific design, is it limited to what trackage can handle it? Can it visit the Northwest, or will the Rockies be in its way.
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    for $37 i can take the express amtrak 'wolverine' from ann arbor to chicago to see the big boy
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    should i pack a gun when i go to chicago?
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    I never left anything in Utah I need to go back for.

    I call that place Detour.

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    It made the trip west once, whether it could do it today I don’t know?

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    It's HUGE and it was designed for traffic over the Wasatch mountains. Being such a specific design, is it limited to what trackage can handle it? Can it visit the Northwest, or will the Rockies be in its way.

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    The limitation is the radius on the turns. She's so long (132 feet) that the boiler is articulated. That's why she's a 4-8-8-4 configuration. Got 8 driving wheels on both halves of the engine.
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    Thanks. We’ll go see it.

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    Bringing back coal. Twenty-eight tons at a time.
    I found a YouTube of one of them, very impressive

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    I watched the PBS special about the engine. It is impressive.

    I will be passing through one of the cities on the day th engine will be there. I don't intend to stop.
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    Last edited by Ted Hoppe; 06-17-2019 at 05:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    vedy cool, wish she were coming closer
    You, Sir and Madam, could make this an excellent excursion. You need to drive in a generally NWly direction to Ludington, whereupon you hop aboard SS Badger, the steam-powered ferry offering crossing service across Lake Michigan, then proceed southerly to a suitable viewing spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post

    I will be passing through one of the cities on the day th engine will be there. I don't intend to stop.
    that's nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by moTthediesel View Post
    I say it needs a sentimental journey back to Troy NY where it was made.
    Schenectady? Isn't that where the Alco plant was located?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    I watched the PBS special about the engine. It is impressive.

    I will be passing through one of the cities on the day th engine will be there. I don't intend to stop.
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    that's nice
    I'm sure every Black Lab in town will breathe a sigh of relief...

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    This is a pretty good documentary about 4014
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    When does her boiler ticket expire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post
    Schenectady? Isn't that where the Alco plant was located?

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    Nope, a Little farther east in Troy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moTthediesel View Post
    Nope, a Little farther east in Troy.
    Yeah, but you're a diesel man. What would you know ?

    Actually, the Alco PA was pretty cool too (for a diesel).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    When does her boiler ticket expire?
    Fifteen years or 1472 days of firing on the boiler, whichever comes first. Per the FRA, Part 230.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text...A_to_part_230#

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    All most impressive. But above all, I’m impressed that the U.P.:

    - has the resources and skills to overhaul a Big Boy

    - trusts its restoration and vintage overhaul department - here in this country, steam specials, which, in this island, cannot be more than one day in duration, often fail. The cost to the UP of having the Big Boy fail on the main line would be huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    The cost to the UP of having the Big Boy fail on the main line would be huge.
    There was a funny incident where a diesel broke down while a steam excursion train was nearby. So the steamer pushed the diesel over the hill

    Steam did work fine for ... oh, a hundred years or so ? No reason for it to "fail".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Favorite View Post
    There was a funny incident where a diesel broke down while a steam excursion train was nearby. So the steamer pushed the diesel over the hill

    Steam did work fine for ... oh, a hundred years or so ? No reason for it to "fail".

    That would be Union Pacific 4014. Torque matters. It was a ginormous freight trying to get over the pass between Laramie and Cheyenne, IIRC, just a few months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    All most impressive. But above all, I’m impressed that the U.P.:

    - has the resources and skills to overhaul a Big Boy

    - trusts its restoration and vintage overhaul department - here in this country, steam specials, which, in this island, cannot be more than one day in duration, often fail. The cost to the UP of having the Big Boy fail on the main line would be huge.

    I am floored that here in the USA we still have an engine works that can do this sort of work. Astounding!

    What I remember reading about #4014 is that she was retired in 1961, and given on loan to a museum, but she never left Union Pacific's ownership. As a result, she's the only main line steam engine to have gone out of service. They just parked her for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Favorite View Post
    There was a funny incident where a diesel broke down while a steam excursion train was nearby. So the steamer pushed the diesel over the hill

    Steam did work fine for ... oh, a hundred years or so ? No reason for it to "fail".
    In Britain and I assumed in the USA when a locomotive breaks down in service it is said to fail . There are loads of reasons for a steam locomotive to fail - a hot bearing, for instance - and these increase with the age, size, power and complexity of the locomotive

    The frequency of failures of preserved engines on the UK main lines was one of the reasons why this one was built taking into account a lot of work done since the end of steam:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_P..._60163_Tornado
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Carey View Post
    Torque matters.
    Electric motors also have max torque at zero rpm. "Diesel" locomotives aren't really ... they are almost all diesel-electric.

    The incident was still pretty neat tho Reminded me of an incident a few years ago - a friend's kid was running AMA and his bike broke right before a TT national. Dad had his forty year old Triumph there tho, so the kid rode it and won the warmup race. He just expected to get start money but it turned out better than he thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Favorite View Post
    Yeah, but you're a diesel man. What would you know ?

    Actually, the Alco PA was pretty cool too (for a diesel).
    You got me there! And you’re right, the Alco PA was a cool looking engine, our branch of the NY Central operated lots of them. As for Schenectady, that’s the home of the big old GE plant. I think they still make locos there.

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    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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