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    Default McConnell blocks all bills to counter Russian election interference

    Even if this article is only half right.. it proves he has to go (all the more)

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    Default Re: McConnell blocks all bills to counter Russian election interference

    Oh, Chait's a lot more than half right. Worth a C&P (source).

    McConnell Is Blocking Any Plan to Prevent a Russian Election Attack in 2020
    By Jonathan Chait

    The House Judiciary Committee held hearings today on the Mueller report and its devastating findings of the Trump campaign efforts to collude with Russia, and Trump’s obstruction of justice thereof. The Republican message, articulated by ranking member Doug Collins, is that this is all in the distant past — the Mueller report came out in early spring; it’s already late spring — and we should focus on the future. “We’re not bringing Russians front and center,” he complained. “If we were attacked, then the priorities should be to go on the battlefields and not to the sideshow.”

    Funny thing about that: There actually are a lot of bills to safeguard the 2020 elections from the next Russian attack. Mitch McConnell is blocking all of them.

    The New York Times reported a few days ago that McConnell is refusing to bring to a vote any bill to safeguard the elections from foreign attack. There’s a Democratic bill to provide election funding to state and local governments. There’s a bipartisan Senate bill to “codify cyberinformation-sharing initiatives between federal intelligence services and state election officials, speed up the granting of security clearances to state officials, and provide federal incentives for states to adopt paper ballots.” McConnell won’t allow any of them to come to a vote.

    The threat from Russian election interference is actually quite severe. Russian intelligence breached at least one Florida county computer system and planted malware in a manufacturer of vote-tabulating machines, according to the Mueller report. While the probability that Russian hackers could actually change the outcome of the next election is low, the consequences would be extraordinarily high — especially if they do so by actual vote-rigging rather than mere information warfare.

    Exactly why McConnell is so blasé about this threat is impossible to say, but the next time McConnell takes some action that sacrifices his partisan interests for the greater good will be the first.

    Of course, Collins’s whole notion that guarding against the next Russian political operation requires halting all investigation of the last one is obviously disingenuous in the first place. The Mueller report shows in detail that Trump and almost everybody working for him welcomed Russian help, legal or otherwise. The reason the government isn’t doing more to protect our democracy from the next attack is that the people who cooperated with the last attack don’t want to.
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    Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Russians did for the Dems what they did for the Reps in 2016? Can you imagine the sheer quantity of bricks the right would. . . produce?
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    Could McConnell be arrested for treason?

    Or...

    Will McConnell be arrested for treason?
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    wth is going on in the GOP leadership?

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    Could his marriage to the Transportation Secretary have any ties to this?
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    I'm going with the treason argument. Even if you think it isn't a problem, how can it be a bad idea to make our voting process more secure.

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    Willfully amoral, the absolute worst thing a human being can possibly be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    Could his marriage to the Transportation Secretary have any ties to this?
    Absolutely. Not only does Mitch's wife owe her job to Trump, she owns a large interest in a company that provides paving products. She was told to divest herself of these, but she has refused. A clear conflict of interest. As Sec. or Commerce, she is steering vast amounts of road repair money to Kentucky in help Mitch get re-elected. She makes money on the power of her position and helps her husband. An illegal win-win for them.
    For this, you can bet your last dollar that Mitch will continue to lick Trump's boots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG
    wth is going on in the GOP leadership?
    It is rotten to its core.
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    Tom, will Mitch be re-elected in 2020?
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    He will be re-elected if Kentucky Democrats fail to present a strong, credible candidate to oppose him. McConnell has spent the last 35 years bringing the Federal pork to Kentucky. He is despised in his hometown of Louisville. But the reds in the hinterland love both him and Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    Tom, will Mitch be re-elected in 2020?
    I know most of us have seen this thread, but if you haven't, take a look. Give and give generously to the Mitch McConnell de-election campaign.

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    Is this a "dead girl or live boy" scenario, or are Kentucky Republicans past caring even on that?
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    Republicans in Kentucky are as rotten as they are elsewhere in 21st century America. To defeat McConnell will take a strong, credible Democratic candidate who can overwhelmingly win the Independent vote. For that matter it will require the same to defeat Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    wth is going on in the GOP leadership?
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    I'm going with the treason argument. Even if you think it isn't a problem, how can it be a bad idea to make our voting process more secure.
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    It is rotten to its core.
    Treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Treason.

    It's a feature, not a bug.
    If we don't hold them to task for their crimes, we will lose our country.
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    "My generation will not allow this to continue!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs View Post
    Could McConnell be arrested for treason?
    Yes. He could also be impeached and removed from office for treason, and for bribery, and for high crimes and misdemeanors. And unlike the President, there is no Department of Justice "Do not prosecute" policy to cover Mr. McConnell.

    He could also be expelled by the Senate. It's happened fifteen times.

    And, the President's power to pardon doesn't extend to any of it, except the crimes.
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    The irony about this idiocy is that a large part of Trumps base and the GOP platform is ensuring national security, a big strong man reflecting traditional male hierarchy protecting the family from threats. But what McConnell is doing is the same Trump is doing on climate change, denial, which simply makes the country more vulnerable. Bigly sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    The irony about this idiocy is that a large part of Trumps base and the GOP platform is ensuring national security, a big strong man reflecting traditional male hierarchy protecting the family from threats. But what McConnell is doing is the same Trump is doing on climate change, denial, which simply makes the country more vulnerable. Bigly sad.
    it's not denial. it's "win at any cost" even if that means a foreign power does it for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Haberland View Post
    it's not denial. it's "win at any cost" even if that means a foreign power does it for you
    Sacrifice national security for a win? Jesus.

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    It's the same as having an enemy military to 'supervise' your Presidential elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    wth is going on in the GOP leadership?
    laughing all the way to the bank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    laughing all the way to the bank
    And his base still thinks he’s doing great
    What complete fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Haberland View Post
    it's not denial. it's "win at any cost" even if that means a foreign power does it for you
    And by 'win', they mean 'eradicate this liberal democracy nonsense once and for all'.
    Rattling the teacups.

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    ^ stupid is as stupid does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Dryfoot View Post
    Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Russians did for the Dems what they did for the Reps in 2016? Can you imagine the sheer quantity of bricks the right would. . . produce?
    I posted about that a month or so ago. Didn't catch on. But I am a great fan of Niccolo Machiavelli and the idea would be right up his alley.

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    It would not be funny if the Russians did to the Republicans in 2020 what they did to the Democrats (and Marco Rubio, by the way) in 2016. It would be a disaster.

    Vladimir Putin is not the friend of the GOP, or Trump or anyone else in the US. He clearly could change vote counts in some states, maybe many of them. If he flipped the Senate to D, and put Trump back in the presidents office he would be close to starting a civil war in the US. It would be hugely damaging to our democracy and civic life. It would be especially damaging if he got "caught" 8 to 12 months after the elections.

    I have no idea how likely it is that Putin would try something like this, but the damage that it would do if he did it would be substantial, and would bring him one step closer to knocking the US out as the worlds number 1 power. The fact that it's within his capabilities is bad enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Hunter View Post
    It would not be funny if the Russians did to the Republicans in 2020 what they did to the Democrats (and Marco Rubio, by the way) in 2016. It would be a disaster.

    Vladimir Putin is not the friend of the GOP, or Trump or anyone else in the US. He clearly could change vote counts in some states, maybe many of them. If he flipped the Senate to D, and put Trump back in the presidents office he would be close to starting a civil war in the US. It would be hugely damaging to our democracy and civic life. It would be especially damaging if he got "caught" 8 to 12 months after the elections.

    I have no idea how likely it is that Putin would try something like this, but the damage that it would do if he did it would be substantial, and would bring him one step closer to knocking the US out as the worlds number 1 power. The fact that it's within his capabilities is bad enough.
    The fact is some Americans yearn for authoritarian rule while wrapping themselves in patriotic symbols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    The fact is some Americans yearn for authoritarian rule while wrapping themselves in patriotic symbols.
    Only as long as that authoritarianism suits their political and religious preferences.

    and Tom, #28,
    "I have no idea how likely it is that Putin would try something like this, but the damage that it would do if he did it would be substantial, and would bring him one step closer to knocking the US out as the worlds number 1 power. The fact that it's within his capabilities is bad enough."

    And if the Russians could, and no one with the power to seems to wish to stop them why would they not?…… Unless of course donald, and maybe others in the senate are already assets and the plan is going along nicely already.

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