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    Default Mast top wind vane advice

    Hello all

    In my unstayed balanced-lug Navigator I miss having telltales.

    Anyone have any strong opinions about mast top wind indicators?

    If favorable, is there any preference between these two comparably priced models.

    Thanks in advance,

    Kenny

    Davis instrument Windex 10 link here
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    C-vane O-vane wind indicator for laser or opti link here
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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    I've used the Davis Windex on several boats and like the fact that you can adjust the tabs to different angles. The only drawback (for all of them) is that seagulls love to try to perch on them

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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    Good to know. The Windex now comes with a stabby attachment for just that reason.
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    I always found telltales or a flag or streamer flown off the leech more useful. The vane doesn't say anything about how the air is moving over the sail.
    -Dave

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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    my neck hurts

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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    my neck hurts
    I needed that!

    Have used the davis on a few boats, and it does help some people keep the boat "in the groove" with the angle guides. I have seen the other one used at deck level, or mounted on a pulpit in the bow, though how usefull it is in that position is debatable. Streamers stuck on the sail are usefull when you can read them correctly.

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    Mine broke and I didn’t replace it. Cranking my head up to look at it every few seconds gave me a severe crick in the neck.

    I just watch the sails. But sometimes I will tape 18” of VHS tape to the main shrouds as high as I can reach, for telltales. They only last a few weeks, but one old movie supplies lots of material.

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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    We used to use old cassette tape for telltales. Sometimes you can hear the songs...

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    I like the visibility of the Davis - but mine's 64 ft. above the water...
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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    Reading the wind on the water and playing a puff card is always a way to go. The Davis set up works well too! But better to trust your eye and the wind on your cheek.
    Jay

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    Thanks for all the advice gents. I'm sure with a few thousand more hours I won't need them, but I'm finding that switching from sloop rig to balanced lug is taking some thought.

    Kenny
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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    But think about how much fun those thousand hours will represent

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    I like all the info I can get.. A masthead vane is a good casting vote when you are as confused as the wind. Works when it is raining as well.

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    A vertical row of ribbons about two feet from the luff is a far better method.

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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    Those are great for telling you sail trim, but I also like to see where my apparent wind is. Maybe I overthink it, but then I'm racing most of the time

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    Tell tales on the sail to help with sail trim, and wind indicator on the mast to help with wind direction.

    I'm going to make a little flag for my mizzen mast and use that.
    There's the plan, then there's what actually happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minuteman View Post
    Thanks for all the advice gents. I'm sure with a few thousand more hours I won't need them, but I'm finding that switching from sloop rig to balanced lug is taking some thought.

    Kenny
    Tell tales on the sail and the wind on your face. Not wearing a hat really helps a lot. I'm not sure a little tiny swivelling thing at the top of the mast will really help much.

    Sent from my CPH1851 using Tapatalk

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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Tell tales on the sail and the wind on your face. Not wearing a hat really helps a lot. I'm not sure a little tiny swivelling thing at the top of the mast will really help much.

    Sent from my CPH1851 using Tapatalk
    I find that the wind at the top is often quite different from the wind on my face - so I kinda take an average.

    For sure telltales on the sail for trimming.
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    Default Re: Mast top wind vane advice

    Point your nose into the wind. Swivel the neck left and right. When the wind noise in both ears is equal, your nose is pointed directly into the wind, +/- 3.0 degrees. Got it?

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