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    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    So big, so heavy. It's a wonder they called it a fighter. Hella ground attack machine, though.
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    Using Wikipedia Specs, The P-47 weighed 10,000 lbs, empty, while the F4U Corsair weighted 9200 lbs; only 800 lb difference. Both had P&W radials; 2600 hp for the P47 and 2,380 for the F4U (weight/power ratio about the same). The P-47 had an 800 mi range and the F4U 1000 mi. Top speed of the P-47 was 433 mph; 446 for the F4U. Both could pack plenty of ordnance under their wings Moral of the story? The "Jug" just looks like a jug, while folks love the Corsair's inverted gull wings.
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    An old film perhaps showing actual P-47 takeoff ops at an airbase in England had the plane's Crew Chief riding prone on a wingtip while the pilot taxied out to the end of the runway as a spotter. SOP's may vary from Wing Command to Wing Command.
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    They tended to float pretty well in the case of a water landing; unlike the P-51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerarddm View Post
    So big, so heavy. It's a wonder they called it a fighter. Hella ground attack machine, though.
    It was built as a high-altitude fighter, and was very successful in that role.

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    Legend has it the DeSeverski sketched out a rough design for the P-47 on the back of an envelope at lunch one day with a Big Wig from the AAF. Of course the general structural outline is not a lot different from the P-36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    Legend has it the DeSeverski sketched out a rough design for the P-47 on the back of an envelope at lunch one day with a Big Wig from the AAF. Of course the general structural outline is not a lot different from the P-36.
    Or, for that matter, the P-35.

    It had to be bigger to accommodate the large engine and the turbocharger, which was needed because it was designed as a high-altitude aircraft.

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    Man, it would suck to be an Italian farmer when they were strafing farm houses to see if any ordinance was stored there.

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    The Squadron known as Blakeslee's Bachelors flew across the Channel out of England.

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    I stand corrected, the P-35 was the Severski aircraft. The P-36 was a Curtis. Memory occasionally fails.


    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    Or, for that matter, the P-35.

    It had to be bigger to accommodate the large engine and the turbocharger, which was needed because it was designed as a high-altitude aircraft.

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    Interesting rules of engagement. If it exists, shoot it up.

    I believe Australia operated to different rules of engagement in the Middle East in recent years.
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    I never realised just how many missions a day they flew! Was the Luftwaffe toast by the time those guys were in Italy? No fighter opposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    Interesting rules of engagement. If it exists, shoot it up.

    I believe Australia operated to different rules of engagement in the Middle East in recent years.
    I would hope so. Why would this not be a war crime? Would the pilot have to know the building was occupied by civilians to know not to target farm houses?

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    You're joking, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hadfield View Post
    You're joking, right?
    Are you? It bothers me that they're shooting up civilian homes. Yes, they found one that contained something that blew up. Did the others contain civilians? Presumably, the whole point of the enemy hiding ordinance in farm houses was that we weren't supposed to be shooting at civilians. Was there intelligence that wasn't in the film? Or were they, as stated by the narrator, shooting up civilian homes on spec, finding one at random that was a disguised amo dump?

    Seems like in war, enough civilians get killed accidentally, without targeting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    I would hope so. Why would this not be a war crime? Would the pilot have to know the building was occupied by civilians to know not to target farm houses?
    How is this any different than Allied and Axis strategic bombing of civilian populations during WWII?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    How is this any different than Allied and Axis strategic bombing of civilian populations during WWII?
    You answered it yourself. The word "strategic". Strategic bombing nominally targeted industrial capacity.
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