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    Default Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    Hello,

    I am looking to build my first boat. Desired specs:
    • 12 ft long (no more than 130 maximum)
    • Stable enough to stand in, easily, not just possibly
    • Must be comfortable for two adults, additional passenger capacity desirable
    • Light enough to be manhandled by one person, easily carried by two, can be launched from beach without trailer. (I would say 150-175 lbs is roughly the upper limit)
    • Seaworthy enough for sheltered saltwater use
    • Designed for use with an outboard, the smaller the better but capable of 10+ knots
    • Design includes positive flotation, or easily added without changing character of boat, to the extent that it can be capsized, re-entered and bailed out.
    • Can be rowed somewhat effectively
    • Will be stored dry
    • Inexpensive to build and suitable as a first project with basic woodworking skills and tools


    Kind of overwhelmed with all the options and having trouble determining which designs fulfill all my criteria, if such a boat exists. Boat to be used mainly for fishing.

    Some I have been looking at:

    Spira Champlain:
    http://www.spirainternational.com/hp_cham.php

    Ross Lillistone Fleet: (too long but I really like it otherwise)
    https://baysidewoodenboats.com.au/designs/fleet/

    Compass Skiff
    https://www.woodenboat.com/boat-plan.../compass-skiff

    Fast Skiff 12
    https://www.woodenboat.com/boat-plan.../fast-skiff-12

    Selway-Fisher Sand Martin
    http://www.selway-fisher.com/Mcup16.htm

    12 Frugal Skiff
    https://www.shoestringshipyard.com/p...-skiff-series/

    Opinions on how these measure up to my requirements or suggestions for other plans greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    I haven't built or used any of those designs, but welcome aboard and good luck!
    I have built some small boats and it's very rewarding.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    Michalak's Piccup Pram
    https://www.duckworks.com/product-p/jm-piccuppram.htm

    You have some seriously conflicting requirements with the weight / carried by two / seaworthy / outboard specs. Build any of these designs too lightly and the outboard will tear it apart. One assumes you also want to sail, looking at your list of designs....
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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    they have built the QT skiffs(both versions w/ the powered one being most popular) during the Family BoatBuilds for several years

    folks enjoyed them and the building process is ANVIL SIMPLE

    i strongly suggest buying Jim Michalak's book which goes thru the building process in detail w/ lotsa good pics n explanations

    https://www.duckworks.com/product-p/bb-bfbab.htm

    the book features the Mayfly 14 and includes plans for the QT skiff along w/ a coupla others

    $17 well spent IMHO

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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    Get Vaitses book on lofting. He has a nice little flat bottom boat's offsets in there that would suit all your stated purposes except I believe it is 10 feet - once you learn to loft it from the book you can have the additional fun of adding another station into the mix to bring it up to a twelve footer and you can brag about how you designed it yourself to boot.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    Thanks for the welcome and suggestions!

    I think my outboard comment was a little misleading. I really want a boat which could handle a 9.9 hp outboard. The as small as possible comment was if I could find a design that would function well with a 6 or 7.5 hp that would be great as well. I have no desire to sail (this boat). I guess the plans I suggested were misleading in this regard.https://www.glen-l.com/designs/outboard/powerskiff.html

    The QT skiff looks great and perfect for a beginner but I am concerned about the comment that it is limited to 5hp and “may plane if you are light”.


    Perhaps something more like this:

    https://www.glen-l.com/designs/outboard/powerskiff.html

    I know I have a lot of conflicting requirements and perhaps I would be better served by something soulless in aluminum, but I really want something I can build myself hahaha!

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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    Unfortunately the Clam Skiff is too big and heavy though simple and extremely stable. Another possibility is a square stern canoe. Light, seaworthy, low power needs due to length. Strip building is not a bad way to start. Gil Gilpatrick has updated his book Building a Strip Canoe and I recall the original had plans for a square stern. Length can be adjusted by varying the form spacing.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    JamesMac,
    Have a look at these three designs. The all fit the criteria of what your looking for

    The Mushulu 12
    https://bowdidgemarinedesigns.com/mushulu-12/

    The Magnum 12
    https://bowdidgemarinedesigns.com/magnum-12/

    The Tropic 12
    https://bowdidgemarinedesigns.com/tropic-12/

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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    Thanks Mark Bowdidge, all three of those are great!

    Much appreciated, I knew somebody had to have designed this boat.

    Any recommendations between the three or more of a personal preference?

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    B&B Yacht Designs Jessy http://bandbyachtdesigns.com/jessy/
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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    The Magnum 12 is a very popular boat at present as a family or fishing boat. With a 9.9 hp and two people on board, she cranks up to 20 kts or 23 mph.

    The Mushulu 12, well .... as a design, over 2700 have been built over the past 10 years. I designed this boat back when we lived aboard our 42 ft Catamaran, cruising Australia and all throughout Asia and the Pacific

    The Tropic 12 is also another very popluar design for getting in amongst the estuaries/ mangroves and skinny waters when fishing with lures or crabbing

    All our designs meet Australian/ US and EU compliance. They're also engineered in regards to scantlings, to Class rules or commercial standards (ABS/ Loyds etc)

    Hope this helps
    Last edited by Mark Bowdidge; 06-08-2019 at 09:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Help me pick a set of plans for my first boat

    i'm liking bowdidge's plans. really like the mushulu 14' for myself....

    Another potential option maybe

    https://www.duckworks.com/product-p/oz-handypunt-id.htm

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