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    Then you wouldn’t fit in on this job site. The 11’ high ceilings didn’t help any.

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    One room. 6 coped 90degree corners, 4 45degree corners and 4 outside 90s.

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    i tip my hat to the good trim carpenters. i've seen some ridiculous work on the upscale housing i work with. people spending 100k on trim want it to look GOOD.

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    Nice work, Steven!

    Here's music to cope by:



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    My residence for my third year of University, back in the early/mid 80s, was in a 'borrowed' design of a Swedish open prison, built not far from the University in Newcastle, and (only recently) demolished. I was sat in the vaguely triangular living room one night, which abutted six private rooms, a shared kitchen and a bathroom, when one of my friends said 'have you ever counted the walls in here?'. I admitted I hadn't. There were thirteen surfaces in the living room, joining at various angles, most of which were nowhere near 90į.

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    Nice work, Steven.

    I abide by the philosophy of:

    Cut
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    Curse
    Caulk

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMARTINSEN View Post
    Nice work, Steven.

    I abide by the philosophy of:

    Cut
    Cope
    Curse
    Caulk


    hahaha,

    i'm just:

    Caulk
    caulk
    caulk some more
    go buy more caulk
    caulk
    paint the caulk

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    Where is that towering son of yours with a 9 foot wingspan?
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    That's way above my pay grade. A simple 90 degree cornice makes my head explode. I need a saw that hangs upside down so so can place the piece on it the right way.

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    My time to shine!

    I know the secret to inside miters...

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    Are the joints coped or mitered?

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    So, Steven, did you do all of this with a miter saw? Or did you have to use one of those coping saws with the skinny blades that I could never learn to use. Probably why I exited the building trades early on.
    Looks great!

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    Are the joints coped or mitered?
    Inside corners are coped; outsides mitered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadsworth View Post
    So, Steven, did you do all of this with a miter saw? Or did you have to use one of those coping saws with the skinny blades that I could never learn to use. Probably why I exited the building trades early on.Looks great!
    Both kinds of saw. The miter saw defines the line to be cut with the coping saw. Itíll really get interesting when I get to this part:C9799E4C-4961-48A7-9F37-27D664A78D45.jpg

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    holy sh!t

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    holy sh!t
    I know. The old crown from that pic is gone now and the new will be like the other pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenBauer View Post
    Both kinds of saw. The miter saw defines the line to be cut with the coping saw.
    Just learned something. I always thought coped joints were made by scribing. I didn’t know about the technique of cutting a miter and then coping to that line.

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    i can cope, but only with the help of my emotional support chicken.

    never done it professionally, but i did run a few hundred feet of crown in our previous joint, finished bright. nobody ever complained about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    Just learned something. I always thought coped joints were made by scribing. I didnít know about the technique of cutting a miter and then coping to that line.
    Upside down and backwards is also the deal with the cut a miter, you need to reverse the crown in the SCPMS.

    New saws do have index marks that you can use, but I learned the upside down and backwards way , and I never have tried the index marks. On my Hitachi SCPMS the marks are to confusing so Iíve just stuck with whatís worked for 35 years.

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    Do you have a Collinís coping foot for you jigsaw Steven? I just cut mine with my Bosch D handle jig saw using my thumb to vary the speed as I twist and turn the saw, which I one reason Iíve never owned a barrel grip Bosch Jig saw.

    Which is a gripe I have with Bosch, theyíve changed the what IMO was perfect jigsaw into a clumsy , to wide a body , to thick a grip saw. I purchased two about 6 years ago , they donít make the one I like any more.

    If the Boschís craps out, Iím not sure what Iíll buy, maybe the Festool ?? Not sure, hope it doesnít happen actually.

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    When my dad switched engineering jobs from very small stuff to larger stuff, they asked if he could make the transition, and he said the physics and engineering formulas are the same. My point being, if you can miter and cope the joints on an acoustic guitar, you can do finish carpentry. But you'll be using saws more than chisels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Girouard View Post
    Do you have a Collin’s coping foot for you jigsaw Steven?

    I don't. I just use a regular old coping saw. Others use all kinds of power tools - tablesaws and grinders and special jigsaw attachments - but I find it just as fast to cope by hand once you know how to do it.

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    Our house in ATL had a LOT of intricate trim work. I remember the trim guy doing a lot by hand with a coping saw. He did really nice work.

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    Nice job Steven, especially in the circular crown mounding.
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    The last time I did that it was building a cherry library in a 250 year old cape in New Hampshire. Nothing at all was plumb or square or level. We started by framing in a level ceiling but that was as far as the trueing up went. Then the shelves with cabinets under, then the crowns. They were built up of 7 pieces so we got lots of practice. Being done that way none were on a bevel like it looks like you did which made it easier for us. The full height shelves that we built and installed had square corners, but the 4 outside corners of the room itself were not. By the time we got it done we had it all figured out. That was before sliding compound miter saws. It took a long time.

    I've never done curved crowns and am relieved knowing that I never will. How do you propose doing that?
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    Not much different than furniture.
    Life is complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Little Time View Post
    Not much different than furniture.
    So far off, you're not even wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Our house in ATL had a LOT of intricate trim work. I remember the trim guy doing a lot by hand with a coping saw. He did really nice work.

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    Nice job Steven, especially in the circular crown mounding.
    Looks really nice, Mark. I hope to see it in person soon.

    But I haven’t done the curved section yet. That pic is of the old molding that the new owners are replacing. I’ll try to get a photo of the new curved work but it might not be right away.

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    A couple of other recent projects that required coping:

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    The kitchen crown job was a rush because the cabinet place messed up a few cabinets and the new ones were delivered Wednesday afternoon. All was ready for the Friday final delivery of the house. I made the cabinets by the fireplace.

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    Nice work! I had a similiar project years ago. Customer moved into a new house and wanted three-piece crown moldings in every room in the house. Ten foot ceilings. All sorts of ins and outs. I, too, do all my copes by hand after the upside-down-and-backwards cut with the miter saw.
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    You going to use Flex molding for the curved crown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Girouard View Post
    You going to use Flex molding for the curved crown?
    or plaster?

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    Sweet!! Sometimes I miss doing trim work, but then I remember, nope. So much work to simply get to gaze upon it once and walk away.
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    "Measure twice, cut once, beat to fit, sand to match, paint to hide." heard somewhere along the line in a career in the trades along with this, "Putty and paint makes a carpenter what he ain't".

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMike View Post
    Sweet!! Sometimes I miss doing trim work, but then I remember, nope. So much work to simply get to gaze upon it once and walk away.

    Flat ďcrownĒ or actually light valance with some new high intensity LED lighting hidden behind the flat crown , the only ďcopingĒ required was coping with the electricianís to get the lighting installed . Which really wasnít bad our electricians are great to work with actually.

    On this project the clients opted for Rainer Shades that will be mounted on the exterior of the bridge area , so it will get gazed upon daily .

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    Got to one of the curved sections today:

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    So how did you do it? Crown molding won't bend like that you know.

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