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    Iím reading one of my favorite authors who I usually trust with this stuff; ďThe SiegeĒ by Arturo Perez-Reverte. The heroís cutter is being chased by a French brigantine which he describes as 250 tons and 800 feet in length. Thatís almost as long as an aircraft carrier. Certainly there were no 800í brigantines in Napoleonís time, were there? In fairness this has been translated from Spanish to English so may be a translatorís error.

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    Perez-Reverte is wonderful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Perez-Reverte is wonderful!
    Yes, but I’m now looking out my window at a passing container ship of about 800’ and trying to imagine her rigged as a brigantine. Her masts would be taller than Bainbridge Island. Some editors missed that one.

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    800 would be a stretch (so to speak).

    I'd guess 125 on deck. Maybe 180 or a bit more sparred length. Could the 800 have been 180 translated wrong?

    ETA - the above is assuming 250 tons - a fairly common Brig size - they generally ranged to a max of about 300 tons.
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    250 tons seems halfway reasonable. Maybe an error in metric to english conversion? Is this a newish Alatriste novel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    250 tons seems halfway reasonable. Maybe an error in metric to english conversion? Is this a newish Alatriste novel?
    No sign of Cap’n Alatriste in this one. 576 pages from November of 2014.

    https://www.amazon.com/Siege-Novel-A...e+siege&sr=1-2

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    Ocho is an introductory Spanish word unlikely to be mistranslated; typo maybe?

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    Piggy in Lord of the Flies. He's short-sighted, and wears glasses. These are used, in the novel, to light a fire.

    You'd be waiting a very long time to light a fire with a concave lens.

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    Elmore Leonard used to claim that the only mail he would get from readers was if he made a mistake about guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David W Pratt View Post
    Ocho is an introductory Spanish word unlikely to be mistranslated; typo maybe?
    Most likely just a typo, this in the Kindle version. I wonder if it also occurs in the print version, just surprised something this obvious made it past the proofreaders. What would we think the most likely length would be of an 1811 French fast brigantine?

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    I just finished reading a cruising guide, not a novel I know, one from the 70's with a fair amount of bilious opinion it, and I was struck by the number of mistakes. Names were misspelled. Places put in the wrong place and description of good anchorages in the San Juan Island as being treacherous. The author had a lot of trouble anchoring. I suspect it was his anchors (all Danforth) and not the bottoms. That aside, the book needed a copy editor.
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    An 800-ft ship rated at 250 gross tons would be approximately thirteen feet wide and have a depth of about one foot...

    {Edit to change 'draft' to 'depth'. Depth is the measure from keel to main watertight deck at 'midships. - mmd)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    An 800-ft ship rated at 250 gross tons would be approximately thirteen feet wide and have a depth of about one foot...

    {Edit to change 'draft' to 'depth'. Depth is the measure from keel to main watertight deck at 'midships. - mmd)
    Dude, I recently visited the Navy Museum and saw original builder’s models of some old warships like Missouri and Forestall, and on and on. I also saw the fighting top from the Constitution’s foremast. It’s pretty darn big, actually...

    There was one that ship I remember only a few things about. I don’t remember the type of vessel, but it carried 6 or 8 guided missiles.
    What I remember is the 600+’ length, 70+’ beam, and 31+ knot top speed.

    Those numbers made my head ache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    Most likely just a typo, this in the Kindle version. I wonder if it also occurs in the print version, just surprised something this obvious made it past the proofreaders. What would we think the most likely length would be of an 1811 French fast brigantine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    I've gone invisible again? Please see post #4 - unless, of course, it's still invisible...
    Garret who? There is no post #4, it goes from #3 to #5.

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    Thought so
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    800 would be a stretch (so to speak). I'd guess 125 on deck. Maybe 180 or a bit more sparred length. Could the 800 have been 180 translated wrong? ETA - the above is assuming 250 tons - a fairly common Brig size - they generally ranged to a max of about 300 tons.
    Odd. I have no problem at all reading #4. Does it show up for everybody when quoted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Odd. I have no problem at all reading #4. Does it show up for everybody when quoted?
    I was kidding.

    But the bigger question, are you going to read "The Siege"?

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    Yes indeed. I have too many books on the list already but I'll get to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Odd. I have no problem at all reading #4. Does it show up for everybody when quoted?
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    Sorry, too damn literal-minded sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Sorry, too damn literal-minded sometimes.
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