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    Default Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    Adirondack Goodboat (not guideboat) hand built by Mason Smith, Long Lake NY.
    Built in the 90's and refurbished by the builder in early 2000's.
    Designed as the best combination of the Adirondack Guideboat and a canoe.

    https://vermont.craigslist.org/boa/d...889568644.html
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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    Oh stop already. It's a puker. The very worst aspects of both. It was designed as a get rich scheme.

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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    Are commercial interests involved here?

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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    How do you get rich building boats?

    Ehm...just asking for a friend.
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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    Quote Originally Posted by JimConlin View Post
    Are commercial interests involved here?
    No. Just professional, historical, and cultural.

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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    How do you get rich building boats?

    Ehm...just asking for a friend.
    Easy. You want to make a million dollars building boats, start with 2 million.

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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    I’m familiar with that method. Not something I normally equate with a get rich quick scheme.
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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    To catch Chris's point, take a look at a AGB builder's comparison of his boat's form to a canoe and kayak. https://adirondack-guide-boat.com/ag...canoes-kayaks/

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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    Mason Smith's Adirondack Goodboat is built using the Constant Camber method. It has no relation to the guideboat's "dory" construction, with a flat, elliptical bottomboard.


    It was designed to be cheaply ($$) and quickly made, 40-60 man hrs per boat. It is designed to be rowed, motored, and sailed. It's only connection to the guideboat is the play on it's name.
    Smith had aspirations to become as big and commercial as the Adirondack Guide-Boat Co. out of North Ferrisburgh, VT. They have successfully turned out wood-cored fiberglass and kevlar boats for over 20 years now. Their strip-built, wood-cored, fiberglass boats take about 80-100 man hours to produce.
    Unfortunately for Mason, the market for his boat wasn't as big as he hoped.
    This is my take on it anyways, I worked for Mason for 3 months during the development phase and had a hand in building the prototype.

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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    Ah, a constant camber form, not canoe or guideboat. I remember a bit of a fad for CC in the '70s? or '80s? as a lumber and labor efficient to build up artisanal fisheries in some remote places. Wonder how that all worked out?

    Edited to add - Think Jim Brown and multihulls.

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    Default Re: Vermont CL - combo of guideboat and canoe built by a Forumite

    Mason being a writer could't resist the name. As I recall the boat is pretty nice on the water, reminiscent of the Grand Lake style canoes. No resemblance to a guideboat other than built in the Adirondacs.
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