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    Default R Boat Pirate Pond Yacht

    I am looking to build pond yachts with my grade school age grandsons and saw information regarding the "Pirate" and that there were plans and some components available at one time from the Center for Wooden Boats. Does anyone know if this is still available, and if so, how to contact them?

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    Don't know about the plans, but: https://www.cwb.org/

    Very nice people there, I'm sure a call or email would get you info.
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    Back in the day, Detroit Shop classes had a program with kids building model boats.
    There things on the web under "Detroit sailing model" which can inspire you
    Along with this: http://www.dickwightman.com/modelyac...ldingclam.html

    Personally, I think you can be far more casual about it. You can learn a lot by doing things by eye and figuring it out. As a kid I carved several million ( a slight exaggeration) sailing models out of anything I could find, Styrofoam was a favorite, and sailed them as quickly as I could, modifying them on the fly, usually by the beach, until they broke and I would do another one. No kidding I could build and sail 3 or more models in between getting home from school and dark. Having some things, like a lump of ballast and a mast and sail that I could shift from one hull to the next made a big difference.
    The biggest thing I didn't have is epoxy, which would have allowed me to put a hard surface on the hulls, and made things that actually might have lasted more than 30 minutes. If there was a cool boat in a magazine, I built a model of what I though it looked like.
    The quick and dirty, fail early and often method gave me a pretty good sense of things, and was probably empowering as hell.
    You may want to be more structured, but it really isn't hard to figure this stuff out. I have been doodling away on some designs that should be pretty accessible and quick enough to build so the kids don't lose patience. Patience is important, but you have to get them hooked first!
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    Also check out these guys:

    http://www.tippecanoeboats.com/
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    I did restoration work on "Pirate" back in the seventies for her owner Dennis Sulivan. Previously, the boat had belonged to several hippies and the interior had all manner of strange items hung as lucky charms in the interior. She had an aluminum mast and a beast of a heavy engine in her. Denny was not up to dealing with all of the work that the boat needed so, it was aquired by Scott Rohrer who was responsible for the massive and excellent restoration that was done on "Pirate" over nearly four years. Originaly the pond yacht model compition of the R boat were used to raise funds to sent the boat back to the R Boat Nationals at Larchmont NY back in the mid twenties. With West Coast skipper Matt Walsh at the helm "Pirate" won the R Nationals that year and brought the trophy back to the West Coast.

    If the Center for Wooden Boats, cannot help you find plans I suggest that you ask how to contact Scott Rohrer through the Center for Wooden Boats in Seattle. Below is one of the models of Pirate that Scott loaned me for opening day at Balboa Yacht Club just prior to the re-launch of "Pirate".
    Jay
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    Thanks all for information. It is quite useful.

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    Paul Marlow was the contact for the Pirate pond yachts, CWB can probably put you in touch with him.

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    You do realise that a pond yacht built to the full size Pirate plans will not have adequate stability? You will need to deepen the keel and put all of the ballast down low as on the model in Jay's post.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    You do realise that a pond yacht built to the full size Pirate plans will not have adequate stability? You will need to deepen the keel and put all of the ballast down low as on the model in Jay's post.
    Ted Geary himself did the plans for the Pirate pond yacht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    Ted Geary himself did the plans for the Pirate pond yacht.
    I was talking to Keith Boeckenhauer whose post does not make it plain whether he is looking for the plans of the R boat or of the pond yacht.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    I was talking to Keith Boeckenhauer whose post does not make it plain whether he is looking for the plans of the R boat or of the pond yacht.
    Yes, I understood your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    Yes, I understood your post.
    OK, I can now see why you quoted my post.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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