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    I had 410 but used it on my sailboat when we barrier coated the bottom.

    This sands real easy think it came from Jamestown dist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstevens View Post
    Your pram looks great Denise. And I am now certain that I will never build anything using S&G or requiring fillets or epoxy fairing. That just looks like the opposite of fun to me!
    Chris thanks! my hands are only good for about an hour of sanding. If the joints are made tight very little filling is necessary.

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    Groan.... What I need is a sort of burr,
    or other way to smoothen 3 sided corners (2 sides & bottom).

    Of all the most difficult of the difficult, getting smooth fillets, this is the most time consuming!
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    Grainger has these, in carbide. I need something between carbide and Stone.

    other than sandpaper and scrapers hi speed rotation tools tend to make the epoxy soft and clog the cutters.

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    Fillets are a b...ear! The few I've had to deal with I had the luxury of having good access to, so I was able to get them pretty smooth with a radiused stick and masking off the edges (tape pulled before the epoxy fully cured). You might try grinding a wooden dowel to a tapered fit and gluing 36 grit to it and chucking that up in your drill....run that at a low enough speed to keep it from heating up? Just a thought...I've not tried it.

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    Hugh, Low speed makes them grab anything with teeth tends to clog up.
    Dowels and sandpaper and such work on everything but inside corners.

    What I'd do if it were interior house painting, is the old painters trick, use drywall compound or latex caulking and wipe it with a damp sponge, makes it look seamless.

    There is waterproof latex caulk that should or could work underneath oil based paint,. But I hesitate..... as I and continue to overwork my carpal crippled hands!

    found it! (what I had in mind)
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    sorry if i already shared this w/ you butt my eyes are telling me you are working on the inside of your transoms and in the past i did feel your pain

    1st order of the day was to orient the work surface so i could sit on my rollaround stool and work

    that involved strapping my dink to a step ladder on my knee high work surface

    IMG_1258.jpg

    this put the target of my hostilities in my crosshairs

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    then i attack'd it w/ the abrasive imbedded nylon bristle brush on the drill motor

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    i used a similar attack on the inside of the sides

    and just rolled her fore n aft as kneaded

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    those little brushes come in 2 sizes from HF for chump change

    <$4 for the 4" and even less for the 3"

    https://www.harborfreight.com/4-in-8...abrasive+wheel

    caution is advised when using abrasives on plywood(no need to ask how i know)

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    SW thank you! I actually considered those as too large in diameter to really be effective in a three sided corner. Actually have one somewhere around the shop.

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    Default Re: CLC eastport pram

    Denise, simply turning it slightly kittywhompus will adjust to your desired radius(most of the time)

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    Default Re: CLC eastport pram

    Half inch sanding rolls are surprisingly versatile.
    2019: returning from being sidelined with medical probs, crossing fingers worst is over, still in "armchair enthusiast" mode for time being.

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    I'm trying to avoid using layer after layer of fairing compound. the final coats of epoxy should be somewhat self-leveling and filling of minor imperfections. I don't know if there is any wisdom in mixing fairing compound into it to make "epoxy paint".

    Fairing of the lap joints seems to look and "feel" ok, it's the fillet joints on the the thwarts and bulkheads that bother me.

    I may try and make a small round "scraper" out of a tubing cutter wheel a bolt and some type of handle. 1/2- 3/4" seems to be about the right radius.

    Most people would be sailing the boat by now!

    When in doubt ... Wet out!
    Bow and stern look pretty good still not happy with the bulkhead protrusions at the center
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    Well I'm back in plastic, I had a pleasant experience as West Marine today "Denise how you been? we haven't seen you in a long time we've been asking about you! ".
    so as always like most customers do I started complaining about the pricing. already had my epoxy in hand (206 & 105) "did you know we'll price match Amazon? ". Wooo I saved myself over 20 bucks!

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    I'm trying to avoid using layer after layer of fairing compound. the final coats of epoxy should be somewhat self-leveling and filling of minor imperfections. I don't know if there is any wisdom in mixing fairing compound into it to make "epoxy paint".

    Fairing of the lap joints seems to look and "feel" ok, it's the fillet joints on the the thwarts and bulkheads that bother me.

    I may try and make a small round "scraper" out of a tubing cutter wheel a bolt and some type of handle. 1/2- 3/4" seems to be about the right radius.
    I watched a YouTube 'how-to' on making fillets and the lady recommended trying a disposable plastic picnic spoon. I had a bunch of leftover plastic silverware and the spoons worked better than my homemade fillet tool, the west system tool, and another one I picked up at TAP plastics. The knives make pretty good stirrers too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerwagon View Post
    I watched a YouTube 'how-to' on making fillets and the lady recommended trying a disposable plastic picnic spoon. I had a bunch of leftover plastic silverware and the spoons worked better than my homemade fillet tool, the west system tool, and another one I picked up at TAP plastics. The knives make pretty good stirrers too.
    I'm not making fillets, they're already done Posts 98-99 and they're fine for most people but I go beyond that and I'm trying to get them smooth like a typical caulking job.
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    Sorry, I misunderstood...I thought you were trying redo them to make them smoother.

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    The Rust-Oleum does dry, 1.5 days ok - 3 days, sandable.

    I switched to helmsman spar urethane, its dries within 6 hours on the epoxy. The Rust-Oleum varathane takes about 3 days I'll save that for stuff in the house
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    Guess what I'm about to do? 😵😰😧


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    YAHOO! Prime coat going on!

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    I had a sleepless night trying to decide on how (amoung many other things) I was going to paint the transom and bow. I finally decided on the curve to match the top edge 5.25" down to the sheer plank.
    I flipped the photos. Three times I've forgotten to remove the grudeon. 😱

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    Wow.... Just wowed myself!
    All that sanding & prep.... that's what it's about!

    While that is drying I need to make 5/8" half round mahogany, (probably go with AKYC) rubrail...
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    NICE! Not painting the skeg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh MacD View Post
    NICE! Not painting the skeg?
    🤣. It's going to be black, whith a brass or copper strip.

    Made the AYC rub rails.. in my haste made em .50" was planning on screws into the back (inside hull) no glue, just caulk, may have to use #4 (or #6) x .75"L screws VERY! carefully!

    Photo; Prebending, it will be where the tape is (bottom of the sheer strake)

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    Thinking it over, I'm going to make them 3/4 they need a rabbet for the lap joint too. The 1/2" was a cut off left over.

    Love the way AYC works, I don't particularly like the smell, kind of pungent not like regular cedar.

    Done did it! .75 square w 1/2 round edge.
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    2nd coat, no it's not very exciting.... but it looks nice!
    Sponge roller (small) 400 & 320 grit between coats. First coat dried, but not 100% could still make fingerprint if pressing down firmly. Will do 3rd coat Tuesday hopefully. Won't be able to flip it to finish the inside unless I can find a way to support it from the handles or rails because even carpeting is going to leave imprint on the paint which is going to be soft for quite a while

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    first thoughts, put deck plates in the top center of the thwarts, but that could make for uncomfortable seating, . Putting smaller 4" deck plates on the vertical bulkhead is doable and they really only need make access for storage items like lines and l oar locks.


    SEAFLO 4" - 8" Black Circular Non Slip Inspection Hatch w/Detachable Cover (8") https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076TBVNYL..._c56kDbRX9G3GY

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    Looking good Denise! About the deck plates... How about these?

    https://www.westmarine.com/buy/becks...24_726_002_500

    4" and 6" diameter. Could put a couple to port and starboard on the top of the thwarts so you don't have to sit on them. And the bag keeps things from rattling around in the compartment and maybe ending up juuuuuuuust out of reach.

    EDIT: I just saw that the link I sent is just for the bag, not the deck plate itself. Still, seems handy.
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    Thank you! Very cool Chris! I would think most people would use bags, but probably not, is usually the case and they let that stuff roll and rattle 🤣 not me of course 🤣🤣
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    Ah, I've never seen a setup with the bags before. Must be a sailboat thing I'm thinking I need something like that for my new rowing shell. Snacks in one, phone in another...

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    I have the whole set from doing canoe trips, very heavy rubberized whatever fabric duffle bag, pack, bags etc when $ wasn't the only consideration when buying things 🤣 don't know that I'll be ever using them again I have so much stuff I don't know what to do with it all.

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    UPDATE? The second coat of paint is already dry to touch! (8hrs) how would that happen when it took 3 days for it to cure on the first coat🤔 this was unprimed epoxy, although very well sanded. I'm really happy with this paint it almost looks like it was sprayed on.
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    Looking Great Denise! Patience is the hard part. Dry to the touch doesn't mean cured.​ I'd still give it a few days. Although I'd pull the tape, if you haven't already.

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    Thanks, but need a 3rd coat, but... Maybe not 🤔🙃😵

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    Well... Ok but not liking it... It just looks too bulky and overwhelming to the gunnel. But it's only 3/4" half round 🤔

    Tape came off perfectly, nice crisp lines on the transom and bow

    After all that work I'm going to leave the rub rail off I only drilled three small holes, may put them on someday, but not now, it looks better without it.
    This would be ideal, little black plastic half round
    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F22 1752198524

    (Hold your phone sideways to get a better close up)
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    Oops, I forgot about the tape on the skids and skeg, that's better!

    I was going to paint the skeg black but I'll go with varnish,

    No mistake! "almond" paint and varnished mahogany look very good together!

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    That's very sweet! I really like the color combo, too.

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