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    Atheists are honest about not following Jesus.
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    Hah!

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    I rather like that, though limiting the 'not' to one unauthorised franchise is somewhat restrictive.

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    Atheists don't rape children?
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    Hmm, that's usually the province of men no matter what their other connections, though not exclusively.

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    Speaking from personal experience, Atheists are just as likely to follow much of Jesus's teachings as Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lathrop View Post
    Speaking from personal experience, Atheists are just as likely to follow much of Jesus's teachings as Christians.
    And for a better reason: that in the most part it is the right and moral thing to do. Not because they are threatened into behaving out of fear of fire and brimstone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgthom View Post
    And for a better reason: that in the most part it is the right and moral thing to do. Not because they are threatened into behaving out of fear of fire and brimstone.
    Well said!

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    You guys are risking being called 'godless' by Ol' Blooie, as well as other choice epithets. Be careful; his opinion means so much here that your reputations may never recover... <wink. grin>
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    You guys are risking being called 'godless' by Ol' Blooie...


    I've never posed as a moral poster.

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    Ah, but have you ever posted as a moral poser?

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    Have you amoral postings?

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    I have posted about boats with amore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    You guys are risking being called 'godless' by Ol' Blooie, as well as other choice epithets. Be careful; his opinion means so much here that your reputations may never recover... <wink. grin>
    From another thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    I am beginning to see a pattern forming, a rule of thumb in the making.
    Whatever Ol' Blue condemns turns out to be sound, whatever Ol' Blue commends turns out to be reprehensible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    I've never posed as a moral poster.
    Moral (in the sense of 'virtuous', or 'good') and religious are quite independent. One can be one or the other, both, or neither.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Moral (in the sense of 'virtuous', or 'good') and religious are quite independent. One can be one or the other, both, or neither.
    Are you a moral person if you do the right thing out of fear of punishment in the afterlife? Christianity claims a moral high ground, but Christian evangelicals I know are behaving in the belief that they will be judged. This does not strike me as morality.

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    Well, I'd say if one behaves well, treats one's fellow humans with compassion and kindness and respect, I don't much care why. If it's out of innate goodness, good genes, hoping for heaven, rational self-interest, expectation of reciprocity, how you were brought up, or trying to avoid being barbecued by Satan and his minions - it's all the same to the clam. (Shel Silverstein quote here.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Moral (in the sense of 'virtuous', or 'good') and religious are quite independent. One can be one or the other, both, or neither.
    Yes, well, I was referencing Sky Blue's oft-repeated, absurd, nonsensical excuse for Trump, "he didn't pose as a moral leader".

    I don't think being atheist is any more predictor of goodness than professed religiosity. People on average, are average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    Yes, well, I was referencing Sky Blue's oft-repeated, absurd, nonsensical excuse for Trump, "he didn't pose as a moral leader".

    I don't think being atheist is any more predictor of goodness than professed religiosity. People on average, are average.
    Ah, but Atheist don't (or very rarely) pose as either an arbitrator or example of "goodness".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lathrop View Post
    Ah, but Atheist don't (or very rarely) pose as either an arbitrator or example of "goodness".
    Weellllll..... I'm not so sure that's true. I try my best to virtue signal here all the time! Just ask me about anything, and I'll tell you exactly how to do it in the moral and good way, or more likely complain about how immoral and corrupt it has become lately!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Madison View Post
    Weellllll..... I'm not so sure that's true. I try my best to virtue signal here all the time! Just ask me about anything, and I'll tell you exactly how to do it in the moral and good way, or more likely complain about how immoral and corrupt it has become lately!
    Point taken but I was not referring to every individual atheist but to the diverse tribe of atheists in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    You guys are risking being called 'godless' by Ol' Blooie, as well as other choice epithets. Be careful; his opinion means so much here that your reputations may never recover... <wink. grin>
    Just for the record, I am utterly godless. I don't think that's a bad thing.

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    Nothing that I've learned about this world suggests the possibility of a god.



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    The best thing about being an atheist is that it takes up none of my time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Well, I'd say if one behaves well, treats one's fellow humans with compassion and kindness and respect, I don't much care why. If it's out of innate goodness, good genes, hoping for heaven, rational self-interest, expectation of reciprocity, how you were brought up, or trying to avoid being barbecued by Satan and his minions - it's all the same to the clam. (Shel Silverstein quote here.)
    what's that nasty term Bluey likes... "Virtue signaling"? I think he would claim you are doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip-skiff View Post
    Nothing that I've learned about this world suggests the possibility of a god.



    But there's more than enough to keep me happy.
    He appears to have the walking on water thing down. How is he with condemning Pharisees, healing the sick, and feeding the masses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lathrop View Post
    Speaking from personal experience, Atheists are just as likely to follow much of Jesus's teachings as Christians.
    Given that most religion espouse the same basic tenets it could appear that way.
    The definition of stupid has got to be the belief that more guns will negate the bloodshed done with guns.

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    I have yet to see any evidence of any god.
    The definition of stupid has got to be the belief that more guns will negate the bloodshed done with guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rgthom View Post
    And for a better reason: that in the most part it is the right and moral thing to do. Not because they are threatened into behaving out of fear of fire and brimstone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lathrop View Post
    Speaking from personal experience, Atheists are just as likely to follow much of Jesus's teachings as Christians.
    The atheists I know seem quite honest and trustworthy. I can't say the same for most of the Christians I know. One example that comes to mind is a church going Christian had a car stolen and made a list of stuff in the car (none of which was in the car) in an effort to rip off his insurance company.
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    I have yet to see any evidence of any god.
    I agree. Seems to me God is just a made up answer to questions people haven't an answer to. There are some basic, minimal things a god would do, especially if he's a caring, loving God.

    If one enters his house to shoot people, God would render the gun inoperable. If one tried to set fire to a church, God would make it fireproof.

    Since he does neither, he either doesn't exist, or doesn't care. His believers will will argue free will, but those shot or burned would not be exercising their free will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    Yes, well, I was referencing Sky Blue's oft-repeated, absurd, nonsensical excuse for Trump, "he didn't pose as a moral leader". I don't think being atheist is any more predictor of goodness than professed religiosity. People on average, are average.
    I think he uses that excuse because he couldn't come up with anything better.

    And I agree completely. Religions of some types, in some times and places, help some people to behave better. Religions of some types, in some times and places, induce some people to behave worse. Where the balance lies, who can tell?
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    Interesting, that nobody used the term 'secular humanism' here... which, to ultra-religious ears, seems to be synonymous with 'communism', 'the devil', or whatever.

    I always thought it meant embracing the same principles as Christianity, just without the Christ part.
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    I had a morel. Gross, just like the rest of those fungi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I had a morel. Gross, just like the rest of those fungi.

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