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    She sure is a supporter of workers.

    Title: Ocasio-Cortez slammed for 'hypocrisy' after her campaign fined for not providing worker's compensation coverage
    The campaign of rookie U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has been fined by the state for not providing workers’ compensation coverage for a month last year.
    The failure to provide the coverage to campaign staff is particularly awkward for Ocasio-Cortez, the Democratic socialist who rose to stardom after unseating top Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley with a campaign theme of improving conditions for the working class.
    Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oca...ation-coverage

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    So, who was responsible for ensuring coverage?

    What are you doing about it?




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    Did she fail to pay because she had an intent to cheat the gov't and her campaign workers?

    Or was this a mere clerical error, which, after discovery, resulted in a small fine that was paid? After all, what the article doesn't say (but which is obviously true), is that the workers compensation taxes were paid in all other months... the missing period was just one month.

    But go ahead.... like Fox News, you can use this to falsely accuse her of hypocrisy, if you like.

    The rest of us will ignore you.
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    Ocasio Cortez worked as a community organizer. The extent of her working history. She knew she was cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonW View Post
    Ocasio Cortez worked as a community organizer. The extent of her working history. She knew she was cheating.
    How do you know? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm pleased to see the fine, because Workers' Comp is important... but how do you know she knew? The article certainly doesn't say so.

    What are you doing about it?




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    I tell you what....I will listen to all y'all reds out there complain about something AOC did (not that she should get a pass...which she isn't) when you also spend equal time complaining about all of the illegal and shady stuff that I don't know...Paul Manafort, George Papadopolous, Micheal Cohen, Michael Flynn, etc, have done. Then you can cry about something AOC did. Until then...insert standard Sailing Anarchy response here.

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    Remember when glengland ranted about trump not paying workers or creditors and using bankruptcies for personal financial gain?
    Remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    How do you know? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm pleased to see the fine, because Workers' Comp is important... but how do you know she knew? The article certainly doesn't say so.
    She worked as a community organizer, workers rights was her job ..How could she not know ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Did she fail to pay because she had an intent to cheat the gov't and her campaign workers?

    Or was this a mere clerical error, which, after discovery, resulted in a small fine that was paid? After all, what the article doesn't say (but which is obviously true), is that the workers compensation taxes were paid in all other months... the missing period was just one month.

    But go ahead.... like Fox News, you can use this to falsely accuse her of hypocrisy, if you like.

    The rest of us will ignore you.

    Maybe it was the Russians.
    Maybe the President should get the FBI to put a plant in her office and try to frame her.

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    The demonization has begun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genglandoh View Post
    Maybe it was the Russians.
    Maybe the President should get the FBI to put a plant in her office and try to frame her.

    Bless your heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    Remember when glengland ranted about trump not paying workers or creditors and using bankruptcies for personal financial gain?
    Remember?
    to quote sobell, "hahahahahahaha. . . . ."
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    Quote Originally Posted by cglynn
    I tell you what....I will listen to all y'all reds out there complain about something AOC did (not that she should get a pass...which she isn't) when you also spend equal time complaining about all of the illegal and shady stuff that I don't know...Paul Manafort, George Papadopolous, Micheal Cohen, Michael Flynn, etc, have done. Then you can cry about something AOC did. Until then...insert standard Sailing Anarchy response here.
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    Inevitable. Just like a bunch of chimps flinging their own feces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonW View Post
    She worked as a community organizer, workers rights was her job ..How could she not know ..
    OK, then explain why the workers compensation was paid in all OTHER months, but just one month was missed. How do you come up with the conviction that she 'knew she was cheating'? What was her strategy?

    I gotta laugh... when all the reds disparage us because of our hate for Trump..... what does THIS ludicrous accusation amount to?
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    Ron, are you worried that she's diluting the white race? Must be something ... for you to be so afraid all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonW View Post
    She worked as a community organizer, workers rights was her job ..How could she not know ..
    Pretty simple: somebody else was responsible for filing, and forgot, and she didn't know they forgot. Happens all the time. You fix the error, you pay the fine, hopefully you learn better oversight, and you move on.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Face it... AOC will be the target of smear after smear from now until she's too old to participate in the process. Think HRC. Some of the accusations will be made up. Some will contain a germ of truth, but will be mostly misleading. Some might even, at some point, have at least some substance. I suspect if there's anything substantial - she'll address it with integrity.

    But the whole point is NOT good government... holding all elected officials to a high standard. The point is to tarnish her reputation. A partisan effort to keep her busy responding to the nonsense, and to marginalize someone they see as potentially effective as much as they can. There seems to be plenty of folks here who are willing to aid this scurrilous effort.
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    How can you NOT pay it? Isn't it sort of automatic? It was a preprinted line on all my pay envelopes and stubs

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    Let's see... which was the greater transgression?

    AOC pays a $1500 fine for missing one payment for workers compensation.....

    or...

    Donald Trump pays a $25 MILLION FINE for cheating people who got sucked into Trump University?

    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."







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    There are enough flawed leaders for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David W Pratt View Post
    How can you NOT pay it? Isn't it sort of automatic? It was a preprinted line on all my pay envelopes and stubs
    I can't speak for every payroll system, but in the ones with which I'm familiar, the deduction is automagic, but the remittance is manual.

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedog225 View Post
    There are enough flawed leaders for everyone.

    Embedded supposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonW View Post
    She worked as a community organizer, workers rights was her job ..How could she not know ..
    because that is why you have campaign managers. They are supposed to handle the minutia of running the campaign. I would not expect her to know any more it than I would expect the Donald to make sure he paid into my workers comp when I was an employee of his. Obviously the buck does stop with her, but you have to trust your managers until something comes up that proves you can't: Like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Orca View Post
    I can't speak for every payroll system, but in the ones with which I'm familiar, the deduction is automagic, but the remittance is manual.
    Precisely. At the size of Harbor Woodworks - max. 12 employees - we have been required to remit quarterly, though the money was deducted each time an employee's paycheck was cut. This is a common pattern for taxes, and a common way for small firms to get themselves into trouble - by failing to escrow that money - and tapping it for cash flow needs instead. When we used a payroll service - the service collected the funds, and disbursed them to the government agencies. IIRC - because of the large $$ values involved, they were required to remit monthly, but no worries for us.

    ETA - I should mention that when we did our own payroll, it was my sweetie doing it. And, not being a payroll/bookkeeping professional, she messed up a few times. Nothing that earned us a fine, but some that could have. No evil intent. Just learning curve.

    In fact, it makes me wonder a bit about that fine. In our case, what we got was a reminder and some guidance. Perhaps it depends on the agent reviewing your file, or mood of the agent that day. Perhaps she's just too visible to be allowed any such slack without opening up potential accusations of favoratism?

    And - if I'd had a hired staff bookkeeper doing the payroll, I'd certainly NOT have been aware of any errors until the relevant government agency pointed them out.

    The OP is really just a buncha desperate, bad-faith, 'gotcha' nonsense by partisan shills.
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    This thread will drop to page 50, then be bumped by the OP again, with some new misleading nugget of disinformation, constant gardening he tending his threads, without the slightest admission that the missing month of payment was likely an unintended error.

    No contrition. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    This thread will drop to page 50, then be bumped by the OP again, with some new misleading nugget of disinformation, constant gardening he tending his threads, without the slightest admission that the missing month of payment was likely an unintended error.

    No contrition. Ever.
    And no integrity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Let's see... which was the greater transgression?

    AOC pays a $1500 fine for missing one payment for workers compensation.....

    or...

    Donald Trump pays a $25 MILLION FINE for cheating people who got sucked into Trump University?

    bump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Let's see... which was the greater transgression?

    AOC pays a $1500 fine for missing one payment for workers compensation.....

    or...

    Donald Trump pays a $25 MILLION FINE for cheating people who got sucked into Trump University?

    Bump

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    *squints like a RWW*

    Well, 1500 is more biglier than 25...

    What are you doing about it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedog225 View Post
    There are enough flawed leaders for everyone.
    There certainly are. Every one of them is 'flawed', since the pool of candidates includes only human beings, every single one of whom has flaws. But 'flawed' seems in this case a disingenuous attempt to equalize greater and lesser flaws.

    One more point: You notice how when the current right wing really latches onto someone and attempts to make them look really, really bad, that person always has two X chromosomes? Gee, I wonder why that is. Must be just a coincidence, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    One more point: You notice how when the current right wing really latches onto someone and attempts to make them look really, really bad, that person always has two X chromosomes,? Gee, I wonder why that is. Must be just a coincidence, right?
    Or is black.

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    Quite true - perhaps more accurately, isn't of northern European descent. And Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is both female and not a member of the Aryan race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Quite true - perhaps more accurately, isn't of northern European descent. And Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is both female and not a member of the Aryan race.
    Naaahhh... THAT can't be true. Could it? I mean... that would mean... that this sort of mean... is a feature, not a bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Face it... AOC will be the target of smear after smear from now until she's too old to participate in the process. Think HRC. Some of the accusations will be made up. Some will contain a germ of truth, but will be mostly misleading. Some might even, at some point, have at least some substance. I suspect if there's anything substantial - she'll address it with integrity.

    But the whole point is NOT good government... holding all elected officials to a high standard. The point is to tarnish her reputation. A partisan effort to keep her busy responding to the nonsense, and to marginalize someone they see as potentially effective as much as they can. There seems to be plenty of folks here who are willing to aid this scurrilous effort.
    I am firmly of the opinion that HRC will be the last woman martyred by those scum, at least on the national stage.

    Everybody is on to their lies.

    AOC will eventually become our President.
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