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    Years ago, I started reading Stuart Woods novels. They are simple and easy to read. After a while, though, they got boring and I stopped reading them. The plots and characters were ridiculous. Plot holes big enough to sail a big schooner through under full sail.
    A couple of days ago I was at the library and thought I'd catch up on the latest release. It was really trash.
    Yet the author sails around in a 1935 85' Trumpy motor yacht and flies his own six passenger jet.
    Evidently, writing over 70 trashy novels pays very well.
    There are a lot of these authors out there, although not as bad as this one.
    The reading public it seems, me included sometimes, is very easily amused.
    Who's your favorite trashy novelist?
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    Rich, I don't know how you would classify them, but I enjoy reading Clive Cussler, Vince Flynn, W.E.B Griffin and rereading John D MacDonald





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    [QUOTE=hawkeye54;5777791]Rich, I don't know how you would classify them, but I enjoy reading Clive Cussler, Vince Flynn, W.E.B Griffin and rereading John D MacDonald

    I've read a lot of the first three, don't know MacDonald. A shame that Flynn died so young. The estate has hired a ghost writer to write novels in Flynn's style and they seem to be OK. Cussler's novels are OK and I think I've read every one. He, like James Patterson, has hired a stable of writers to do the actual writing nowadays. I suppose they work on the outline and do editing, but their novels are no longer their own work. Their names are blazed across the cover of the book and in much smaller print below, you'll see
    "with Joe Smith". Joe Smith is the guy who wrote the whole book, but in the Cussler's/Patterson's style.
    All of the above aren't badly written. Stuart Woods', on the other hand, are pure trash.
    But, given his lavish life style, I guess he appeals to lots of folks.
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    I don'y know how some of these authors write so many books. Do they have a staff? Frank Baum had one. Remember the OZ books, "The Wizard of Oz", and on and on.....? If you look at who wrote them, Frank Baum wrote the first few, then he had coauthors, then he dropped out and the coauthors took over.

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    I believe that the bulk of the Oz novels, after the second, were written by his (?) daughter, niece, (?), Ruth Plumley Thompson

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    One man's trashy literature is the only thing another man will read, and with only a few exceptions, it's better to read than not. There has been formulaic fiction in every sub-category as long as I've been aware of fiction; westerns, crime, mystery, sci-fi, romance, and on and on.

    Every now and then, readers of such 'trash' graduate to John Irving.

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    Does Ms Chastain know about this?
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    Three characters for you to Google: Dave Robicheaux, Harry Bosch, and Easy Rawlins.

    Also Precious Romatswe, Flavia DeLuce, and Agatha Raisin.

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    Nora Roberts aka JD Robb aka Jill March aka Sarah Hardesty- 225 romance novels and still going strong. Worth about $370 million. And yes, she writes them all herself.

    And no, I haven't read any of them
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    This a 'thrash Sobell' thread in disguise? If so, I don't disapprove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    ...Also Precious Romatswe...
    I grew up with one of the secondary character's as my Dr. His son was my best friend, his daughter my first crush. I believe I met the author when I was, uh, young. I don't know if I'd've identified with the books as much if I hadn't had that experience. Even if I hadn't I don't think I'd call the books 'trashy'. Pulp maybe, trashy, definitely not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    Three characters for you to Google: Dave Robicheaux, Harry Bosch, and Easy Rawlins.

    Also Precious Romatswe, Flavia DeLuce, and Agatha Raisin.
    I think I read every Walter Mosely (Easy Rawlins) book that our local library held, a few years ago. I'm not sure they quite fit the trashy novel mold?
    I used to enjoy the likes of Clive Cussler, until that whole ghost writing thing started plaguing the trashy paperback industry. "In the style of" just never seems to quite hit the mark, with any of those big name authors.
    Alistair McLean - now there was a good trashy novelist! I might even test drive one again, for old times sake .

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    Ion Idriess. What a colonial wanker!
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    James D. "Jim" Grant, primarily known by his pen name Lee Child

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    novels.

    Curently reading 'Past tense'.

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    Bernard Cornwall and Lee Child. Two of my favorites and definitely not trashy.
    I picked on Stuart Woods because his writing is totally sloppy. He goes off on non-plot related tangents that seem to be there for no other purpose then to fill pages. The end of his latest novel, just sort of dribbles to an end.
    A lot of the authors listed by posters are what I would call 'easy reads' but are well written. Sometimes you just need a book where you can turn your mind off and enjoy.
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    I have a really hard time reading most novels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    Three characters for you to Google: Dave Robicheaux, Harry Bosch, and Easy Rawlins.

    Also Precious Romatswe, Flavia DeLuce, and Agatha Raisin.
    I'm going to have to look up the latter three, because with the first three, you are definitely speaking my language. Speaking of Rawlins, have you read the Socrates Fortlow books? They are magnificent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I have a really hard time reading most novels.

    Blech.

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    I do try for non-fiction now and then, but they do take a lot of concentration. For easy and relaxing reading, it's gotta be a novel.
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    I read most of Louis L'Amour's oeuvre between the ages of 10 and 12.

    Shalako. Last Stand At Papago Wells. Kiowa Trail. Catlow.

    One of the last I read was The Walking Drum. He really stretched his literary legs on that one. A Viking in the court of Constantinople! I realized many years later it was surely "inspired by" Bergstrom's The Long Ships.

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    Wilbur Smith.

    I prefer his earlier novels.

    The latest ones unfortunately appear to be (ghost) written by somebody else.

    Plus they have changed from rollocking god yarns to 'Mills and Boon type love' stories.


    PS I have never read a Mills and Boon book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I do try for non-fiction now and then, but they do take a lot of concentration. For easy and relaxing reading, it's gotta be a novel.
    Formulaic things donít relax me. Itís why I donít watch teevee or movies. I know whatís going to happen. Scripts are as formulaic as novels, and we only have so many plots.

    When I do read fiction, I want a certain type, and it ainít pulp.

    Bit, this is just me. My quirks.

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    Anyone read Sven Hassel's books, somewhat along the lines of 'All Quiet on the Western Front'.

    Sven Hassel was a World War II novelist, who completed a series of fourteen books, that tell the battles of a penal regiment on the Eastern Front.

    The novels are based on his own experiences in the German army.
    He published his first book, Legion of the Damned, in 1953.

    The complete series has to this day been published in more than 50 countries, translated into 25 languages and sold over 53 million copies worldwide.
    Sven Hassel’s books are a testament to the brutality of war and show the unique perspective of the desperate fight for survival of the ever-dispensable soldier.
    Apparently he is arguably one of the most sold Danish authors, at most second to Hans Christian Andersen, Danish public libraries, as of 2012, did not stock his books.

    English titles:
    • The Legion of the Damned (1953)
    • Wheels of Terror
    • Comrades of War
    • March Battalion
    • Assignment Gestapo
    • Monte Cassino (The Beast Regiment)
    • Liquidate Paris
    • SS-General
    • Reign of Hell ISBN 0-304-36690-0
    • Blitzfreeze
    • The Bloody Road to Death
    • Court Martial
    • O.G.P.U. Prison
    • The Commissar

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Formulaic things don’t relax me. It’s why I don’t watch teevee or movies. I know what’s going to happen. Scripts are as formulaic as novels, and we only have so many plots.

    When I do read fiction, I want a certain type, and it ain’t pulp.

    Bit, this is just me. My quirks.

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    Are you being serious, humorous or something else?

    I have to ask as my 'Irony meter' is apparently broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Are you being serious, humorous or something else?

    I have to ask as my 'Irony meter' is apparently broken.

    Reading helps make better readers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Are you being serious, humorous or something else?

    I have to ask as my 'Irony meter' is apparently broken.

    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Reading helps make better readers.

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    Seems you didn't read (or understand) my questions or humour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Seems you didn't read (or understand) my questions or humour.
    I have told you before, trying to help. The little faces donít make the humor. I can recommend some books, perhaps, to help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I have told you before, trying to help. The little faces don’t make the humor. I can recommend some books, perhaps, to help?

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    Seems you still didn't read (or understand) my questions.
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    Ah, popcorn for the mind, good books for air travel. Some would put Patrick O'Brian in that category (not me). Alexander McCall-Smith verges into it sometimes. I like his heroines a lot, Precious Ramotswe and Isabel Dalhousie. I read a fair amount of Tom Clancy 20 years ago, although not lately; even the best of his stuff barely rises that high; more like junk food for the mind; gumdrops, or something that makes you feel a little sick if you eat too much of it. My current nomination is Eric Flint's 1632 series, where the town of Grantville, West Virginia gets transported to Germany near the end of the 30 Years War, and all sorts of interesting things happen. There are a lot of books in the series, by multiple authors. Great Art it isn't, but almost always entertaining.


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    The Dresden Files series by Jim Butcher.
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    Rich, think of it this way: I love a good steak, but sometimes a hot dog is delish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rum_Pirate View Post
    Seems you didn't read (or understand) my questions or humour.
    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I have told you before, trying to help. The little faces donít make the humor. I can recommend some books, perhaps, to help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Some would put Patrick O'Brian in that category (not me).
    me either

    obrian falls into the unreadable pretentious over written drek category
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    emoticons are for the weak
    I use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    me either

    obrian falls into the unreadable pretentious over written drek category
    Books for the nautically challenged...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    O'Brian falls into the unreadable pretentious over written drek category.
    You realize, good sir, that there's only one thing an honourable man can do in such a situation? You'll be hearing from my seconds.

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