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    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Looks south of Cape Cod, where the cats are slimmer. The fairly straight stem, hollow bow waterline, coachhouse profile, cockpit staving, and transom tumblehome are all common for cats.

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    Wherever it might be they sure like their catboats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Wherever it might be they sure like their catboats.
    yah

    cool motorboat in the background too
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    Whaddaya suppose is in the box?

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    i figured it was a crabtrap

    the pic is from a historic catboat related facebook page, but i'm unable to access the page
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    Wicked bend on those rubrails aft.

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    ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Wicked bend on those rubrails aft.
    So, it was built in the drywall screw era. At least we can date it, now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    At least we can date it, now.

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    You first. Have it back by 11.
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    Here's some more info.

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    http://mvpreservation.org/properties/edwina-b/

    The Edwina B. is one of three surviving catboats designed and built by the Vineyard’s “Old Sculpin” Manuel Swartz Roberts. This fine wooden sailing boat was built in 1931 in the Old Sculpin Gallery, less than 100 yards from where she is moored.

    Confusing. Vineyard Trust posted the image and description on their Instagram ( https://insta-stalker.com/post/BqIqKPKAyfD/) yet the boat depicted as Edwina B on their website is cat-rigged, rather than sloop-rigged. Hmmmm?

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    There are two kinds of boaters: those who have run aground, and those who lie about it.

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    Edwina B is a special boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Wicked bend on those rubrails aft.
    They might have used green oak. Even without steam they would bend on fairly easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakaway View Post
    Here's some more info.

    Screen Shot 2019-01-03 at 12.33.41 PM.jpg

    http://mvpreservation.org/properties/edwina-b/




    Confusing. Vineyard Trust posted the image and description on their Instagram ( https://insta-stalker.com/post/BqIqKPKAyfD/) yet the boat depicted as Edwina B on their website is cat-rigged, rather than sloop-rigged. Hmmmm?

    Screen Shot 2019-01-03 at 12.56.52 PM.jpg

    Kevin

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    Obviously she has been rigged both as a sloop and a cat.

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    I bet the sloop rig was a modification by an interim owner who didn't like catboats. Stepping a mast in the middle of the coach roof just doesn't look right. It also presents structural problems. Moreover, if you look closely at the foredeck, I believe you can see an opening for the original (and current) mast location.

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    With the numbers, she was registered as a motorboat at the time of the pic. I don't see any jib gear so I suspect that she was running mostly as a motorboat with the mast shifted aft and a smaller main. Easy enough to add some partners inside the cabin, especially if it isn't used much. Seems to me LFH did something like that on the Rozinante.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Fuller View Post
    With the numbers, she was registered as a motorboat at the time of the pic. I don't see any jib gear so I suspect that she was running mostly as a motorboat with the mast shifted aft and a smaller main. Easy enough to add some partners inside the cabin, especially if it isn't used much. Seems to me LFH did something like that on the Rozinante.
    Jib halyard block hooked to the forestay turnbuckle?
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    You first. Have it back by 11.
    But, the movie doesn’t end until 11...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Jib halyard block hooked to the forestay turnbuckle?
    You are right; I was looking for sheeting arrangements which I didn't see.
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