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    Quote Originally Posted by B_B View Post
    I thought Peter King won?
    Dems elected mostly centrists. Reps elected mostly crazies, including Steven King the white supremacist from Iowa who was denounced by his own party leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    Dems elected mostly centrists. Reps elected mostly crazies, including Steven King the white supremacist from Iowa who was denounced by his own party leadership.
    'twas a joke, C.Ross, giggle a little
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    Quote Originally Posted by B_B View Post
    'twas a joke, C.Ross, giggle a little
    I got it. I thought it clever. King fits the description for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvida View Post
    That fear needs to be taught. The people need to see laws actually being enforced on the highest and most lawless.
    Well, there ya go. That's why nothing will happen because the Dems are in it just as deep as the Repubs.

    To me, deeper, because the Dems pretended to be the champion of the common man, while we knew the Repubs were the tools of the wealthy. Which is worse, an honest enemy or a smiling back-stabber ?

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    <snort>
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Trump endorsing Pelosi today must be a bit of gamesmanship. Trump probably thinks Pelosi's baggage is a plus for his side.

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    I think Trump wants to deal with Nancy. Pretty desperately. There are whispers already that Trump may be too eager to deal with Democrats and could leave stakeholders out in the cold.

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    It's obvious by now that Trump is a lousy deal maker.

    He now has someone to blame. In fact he openly said so that he will blame democrats for everything that doesn't go his way.
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    Remember that this was the original fear by some on the Right about Trump. That he was "insufficiently conservative" and would give away the farm to Democrats.

    Democrats have a big opportunity here with Trump, where under a "normal" Republican administration there wouldn't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    Remember that this was the original fear by some on the Right about Trump. That he was "insufficiently conservative" and would give away the farm to Democrats.

    Democrats have a big opportunity here with Trump, where under a "normal" Republican administration there wouldn't be.
    Don't you mean the farms that were economically hurt by Trump's tariffs, If he gets the price down on farmland low enough, maybe he'll buy it at auction and build another Trump Tower SB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    Remember that this was the original fear by some on the Right about Trump. That he was "insufficiently conservative" and would give away the farm to Democrats.

    Democrats have a big opportunity here with Trump, where under a "normal" Republican administration there wouldn't be.
    Nothing the Democrats could ever want will get past Mitch McConnell’s senate. Stop being ridiculous.
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    Trump thinks he won the election, SB knows he really didn't! Consequently he's busy with lies and falsehoods like King Donald did over the last two weeks before the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Nothing the Democrats could ever want will get past Mitch McConnell’s senate. Stop being ridiculous.
    Trump could very easily turn Mitch into his whipping boy, just like he did with Sessions, badmouthing him right out in the open. Democrats would be delirious. I think Mitch will be looking to deal as well. Doesn't the President have to sign off on the budget?

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    Again, in a way (and Trump tried to articulate this in his remarks today), Trump has the empowering threat to Republicans that he might start dealing with Democrats, if they want to deal and if the Republicans become recalcitrant. The Senate is more pro-Trump than it was yesterday, too. Mitch doesn't want to get in a power struggle with Trump right now. And working with Democrats might be politically beneficial to certain Republican politicians, especially in the Midwest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    Trump could very easily turn Mitch into his whipping boy, just like he did with Sessions, badmouthing him right out in the open. Democrats would be delirious. I think Mitch will be looking to deal as well. Doesn't the President have to sign off on the budget?
    Why should Democrats trust Trump if he turns on his Rep colleagues, the very people who have enabled him up to now?

    The best thing the Dems can do is toy with him, negotiate and try to avoid the looming crisis at least until the new Congress is sworn in.
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    She got 55% of the vote, but only about 40% of the electorate turned out. So about 78% of the voters did not vote for her, in her home state

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    Quote Originally Posted by David W Pratt View Post
    She got 55% of the vote, but only about 40% of the electorate turned out. So about 78% of the voters did not vote for her, in her home state
    What's your point? She won her election, in exactly the same manner as every other winning House candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leikec View Post
    What's your point? She won her election, in exactly the same manner as every other winning House candidate.

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    Again, there IS no point! Noise is a point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccmanuals View Post
    Wanna see a weak leader, look at Paul Ryan.

    Democrats need a strong leader that will keep the caucus in line.
    I haven't formed any conclusions - but I agree with this sentiment.

    And on that note - here's an article that makes it sound as if Pelosi still has the chops to keep an often-chaotic mob of Dems in formation and disciplined --

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/07/u...ans-house.html
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    On the border has more than a point (#39) in that they are all in it, you need to be wealthy with wealthy friends to stand with a chance, let alone to succeed. And that applies equally to the Dem/GOP. Can't see that changing soon.
    No wonder the bottom 70% gets such short shrift when the parties only associate with money and the top 30%…..or maybe only 15%.

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    I like Nancy Pelosi, she is the one for the job. I am in once in a blue moon agreement eith SkyBlue! One thing is for sure, if they do not go with Nancy Smash, they certanly had better not hork up Steny Hoyer.

    As for Chuck Schumer, he is not doing a very good job, he could and should be slowing this judgeship thing considerably more, IMO. How about Patty Murray?
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    My point is that she is a minority winner. She won the election, but there may be meaning to her lack of overall likability in a more national role.
    No need to be insulting, SVA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Nothing the Democrats could ever want will get past Mitch McConnell’s senate. Stop being ridiculous.
    Ridiculous? Or disingenuous? You decide.

    Either way... a total write-off.
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    Consider this: President Nancy Pelosi once the house cuts the heads and slays the Trumpians hydra.
    Be wary of your critics, at peace with your decisions, and work hard to be a better man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Hoppe View Post
    Consider this: President Nancy Pelosi once the house cuts the heads and slays the Trumpians hydra.
    Yes... wouldn't that be a real relief - to have a pro in charge - after 2 years of chaos, dysfunction, and degradation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Scheuer View Post
    Trump endorsing Pelosi today must be a bit of gamesmanship. Trump probably thinks Pelosi's baggage is a plus for his side.
    Trump thinks correctly.

    He knows that he can use her very well as an example of everything that is wrong with Liberal America, as the dragon which must be slain if our beloved little village is to survive.

    Pelosi is perfect in this role.
    No adversary is worse than bad advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    Trump thinks correctly.

    He knows that he can use her very well as an example of everything that is wrong with Liberal America, as the dragon which must be slain if our beloved little village is to survive.

    Pelosi is perfect in this role.
    There's some truth to this.

    But it's also true that both Trump and the Republican party have shown that they will attack, unfairly smear, and attempt to marginalize anyone they sees as an opponent. Using facts, half-facts, or total fiction. So whoever it is... will have to be prepared for that. There's one school of thought that Obama's relative inexperience (and lack of track record) was helpful in that way.
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