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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    Walker is a colorless dullard with a perpetual look of stupidity on his face. His main political virtue is his obstinancy. That the good people of Wisconsin are not yet tired of him is a phenomenon that should be studied by political scientists. It is incredible to think that he was the flavor for 2020 until Trump came along.
    The GOOD people of Wisconsin have been tired of him since 2011. It's the other people in Wisconsin that might keep him in office again.

    But Trump didn't beat him in 2016. He beat himself. He thought he could make attacking unions a national platform. Turns out no one was interested. And he had no other ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    Walker is a colorless dullard with a perpetual look of stupidity on his face. His main political virtue is his obstinancy. That the good people of Wisconsin are not yet tired of him is a phenomenon that should be studied by political scientists. It is incredible to think that he was the flavor for 2020 until Trump came along.
    Walker and Trump both present a perpetual impression of stupidity. But Trump IS more colorful.

    Or is your reaction simply because another Republican who did not genuflect sufficiently to Trump may lose?

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    NH House and CO Senate flip red to blue.
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    Walker's lead down to 613 votes, with 92% in. Some blue votes out there yet, maybe more red...

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    Recount in WI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Good luck and may a bit of sanity return to the US.
    Agreed +1000
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    Ray of sunshine. Good luck in Wisconsin Tom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    Recount in WI?
    Not automatic, but I'll bet there will be one no matter who wins. Walker is gaining more, though, and most of the blue counties are in.

    Edit to add: There is an automatic recount if the race is within .25%. If it's within 1%, the loser can pay for a recount, but it's not automatic.

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    Walker's lead down to 847 with 95% in.

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    Evers up by 301 now, but I think mostly red votes left to count. We'll see...

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    Walker up by 170 now...
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    Well, Brown County is in, that's the one I was most worried about for Walker. Walker up by 1,544 with 97% in. There might be that many blue votes out there yet. Lacrosse County is leaning blue with less than 40% of the votes in, for one.

    A recount looks very likely either way.

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    Wow, 45k uncounted absentee ballots from Milwaukee (proper) were. Initially uncounted and will now be added. Not sure Walker can survive that

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    I hadn't heard that. That sounds like GREAT news for Evers. But the NYT has Milwaukee with 100% of votes in, and they've been updating frequently. They have Walker up by 1878 with 97% in overall. I really hope those absentee votes haven't been counted yet.

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    Nunes and Hunter win in CA.

    Polls closed in AK, any word on crusty old Don Young?
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    Evers in the lead again! (This is ridiculous) Wisconsin with the highest voter turnout in the nation right now, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    Florida comes down to Miami votes
    Florida comes down to panhandle votes because they are the last to be counted. The TV election pundits always overlook the panhandle, like we're not really Florida. We are in the central time zone so they've been counting votes in the peninsula for an hour before our polls close.

    The panhandle is ultra conservative. There are counties here who gave Desantis and Scott 70+ percent of the vote.

    So voting is winding down; they're not ready to actually call it yet, but they're pretty confident. Then the polls close in northwest Florida and the redneck vote starts getting counted, and all of a sudden the races are tied, and then candidates that were winning begin to lose.

    Incidentally, pollsters during the campaign also ignore the panhandle and make predictions mostly or totally on peninsula polls. Then everyone is oh, so surprised when the election numbers don't mirror the poll numbers.
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    The Milwaukee votes came in--Evers up by 30,000+!!!!!

    That's enough to mean there will be no automatic recall (oops, I meant recount--just remembering the good old days of collecting signatures to recall Walker and several Republican legislators a few years back), and maybe not even one that Walker pays for himself!!!!!!!

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    AP has called it for Evers--a long-needed win!

    And it may be more than a 1% margin, which means no recount is allowed. Good news, and good night.

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    I think the best result of all is the numbers that turned out and voted. Now to work on some of those recalcitrant states practicing voter fraud.

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    late night meanderings of a slightly disturbed mind........Reflections of yet another day in American politics.

    could have been better
    could have been worse
    but politics in America
    has become the curse
    that the demon mammon
    has cast over the nation
    so the rich get richer
    and the poor go the war
    and the land gets poisoned
    until death do we part

    social justice is fought
    in the office and on the street
    but that fight looks lost
    and the future looks bleak
    so go cast your vote
    for blue and for red
    while the war you fight overseas
    comes to your streets
    and politics of division
    secure your ultimate defeat
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomF View Post
    Looks like the House may go blue, while the Senate stays red. Not the gains some had hoped for blues though.
    True.

    Interesting times ahead.
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    The key takeaways for me? Judges will be appointed at an ever more frantic pace, with no need to cater to allegedly swing Rep senators. And suddenly the House will again exercise a check on the Executive, in particular in committee investigations. Legislation to protect Mueller will be passed, and die in the Senate.

    The governor elections, though, will have an impact on how redistricting happens after the next census. That will be big. Particularly if the Supreme Court again sees arguments about gerrymandering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sobell View Post
    Florida comes down to panhandle votes because they are the last to be counted. The TV election pundits always overlook the panhandle, like we're not really Florida. We are in the central time zone so they've been counting votes in the peninsula for an hour before our polls close.

    The panhandle is ultra conservative. There are counties here who gave Desantis and Scott 70+ percent of the vote.

    So voting is winding down; they're not ready to actually call it yet, but they're pretty confident. Then the polls close in northwest Florida and the redneck vote starts getting counted, and all of a sudden the races are tied, and then candidates that were winning begin to lose.

    Incidentally, pollsters during the campaign also ignore the panhandle and make predictions mostly or totally on peninsula polls. Then everyone is oh, so surprised when the election numbers don't mirror the poll numbers.
    Yeah, Rick Scott pulling out a late night victory was the biggest bummer of the day for me.
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    SB wonders why things are muted here? Reps actually gaining in the senate? There go judge positions for a generation - our kids & grandkids will be living in a far less fair world than we got to. Yes - even white folks will suffer for this, but those of color & non-Christian religions will be the true victims.

    While there were a few bright spots in some states, Florida will have more years of sticking its head in the sand on scientific matters & Georgia proved that you can do & say anything to win & there will be no repercussions. I bet more Reps will now focus on the Sec. of State positions, as it seems it's OK to control an election from that position.

    Integrity & honor were the big losers in the senate & some gubernatorial races - but the 2016 election has already shown us that many US citizens no longer care about those 2 outdated concepts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    Minnesota House flips from R to D. Any other state legislature results?
    6 or 7 State houses flipped blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Florida will have more years of sticking its head in the sand on scientific matters...
    The irony being some of that sand will be underwater in a few more years.

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    OK, looking pretty good in Minnesota. Governor, two senators, all state officers Democrats. The Democrats take very solid control of the house, the Republicans hold the Senate, barely. The large change was in the well-off well-educated purple suburbs, where Trump's combination of malevolence and incompetence hasn't gone over well. And the folks I supported for the local mayor and city council seats won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    The irony being some of that sand will be underwater in a few more years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    OK, looking pretty good in Minnesota. Governor, two senators, all state officers Democrats. The Democrats take very solid control of the house, the Republicans hold the Senate, barely. The large change was in the well-off well-educated purple suburbs, where Trump's combination of malevolence and incompetence hasn't gone over well. And the folks I supported for the local mayor and city council seats won.
    plus y'all elected the other first muslim woman to congress
    bet she ain't from rural minnesota. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    plus y'all elected the other first muslim woman to congress
    bet she ain't from rural minnesota. . .
    Hell no. South Minneapolis, right by my office, leftish district, lots of Somali immigrants. Ilhan Omar is very impressive, but she'd stand as much of a chance out in farming country as Osama Bin Laden (and he's dead).
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    Will be interesting to watch the House the next two years. If they have no issue but opposing Trump, and ignore issues that mean things back home, it will be a short-lived blue House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Wilson View Post
    Hell no. South Minneapolis, right by my office, leftish district, lots of Somali immigrants. Ilhan Omar is very impressive, but she'd stand as much of a chance out in farming country as Osama Bin Laden (and he's dead).

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    My reaction is mixed. I didn't watch ANY coverage last night, choosing, instead, to watch the second season of 'Jack Irish'......

    ...but I did tune in briefly at 11:30PM.

    Of course, the Democratic win in the House was fully expected... but I was very disappointed in the Florida and Georgia results.

    Regardless, at the very least, Trump's legislative agenda in dead for the next two years.... and that's a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sobell View Post
    Will be interesting to watch the House the next two years. If they have no issue but opposing Trump, and ignore issues that mean things back home, it will be a short-lived blue House.

    No, not really. Opposing the lying corrupt trump administration will be fine.

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