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    Default A rig for an 1840 Cullercoats coble model

    Some of you may remember the model that I built. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...ilding-a-coble

    I decided it was time I build her rig.
    First up, the hull fittings.
    Reinforcing iron work for the tack tye holes.
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    The "shroud iron" and its reinforcement for the halyard.
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    The fall of the halyard tackle belays around the sailing pin visible aft of the shroud iron work,

    The strop into which the sheet tackle hooks.
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    And installed around the thwart riser.
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    To be continued.
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    Next up the inventory of blocks. The holes for the lines were drilled with a spade bit made from a broken needle in a egg whisk hand drill.
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    Rather than attempt to make rope strops covered with serving, I faked them with copper wire.
    After brazing and before cleaning up.
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    Crimped around the blocks. I got the idea from a small block with a single beckett made this way.
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    The two mast travellers are also in the image.

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    Rigs need rope, so I needed to build a rope walk.
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    The drive mechanism did not work well, too complex, so I came up with a simpler system
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    I laid up lines with one, two, three, and four yarns per strand.

    The four yarn lines are for the tack tye and halyards, the three for roping the sails, the two for the jib sheets and the single for the falls of the tackles and other cordage.
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    On to the sail loft floor

    The plan of the mainsail, made from stiff card and tried against the hull and mast to confirm its shape.
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    The sail cloth pinned to the loft floor. The cloth is drafting linen washed of its starch dressing and dyed to the colour of barked canvas.#
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    The sail cut and the patches and tablings fitted, PVA wood glue substituted for sewing.
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    Roped, robands fitted to head and reef points marked out.
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    Sails need cringles that need thimbles.

    Narrow copper strip, formed into a channel and then wound around a wire slightly larger in dia than the final ID of the thimble.
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    Laying wire in the channel and winding both together helps keep everything behaving as it should.

    The spiral was then sawn through with a jewellers piercing saw hammered flat and closed, before being cleaned up with a needle file.
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    The finished sail, thimbles sewn in, peak and throat lashing made off, and starting to tie off the robands. The cringles are a bit over size for true scale.
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    The robands are cow hitched through cringles along the sails head with one long and one short leg. The long leg takes a round turn around the yard and is then tied off with a reef knot to the short leg.

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    Splicing the halyard tye around its thimbles.
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    The thimbles were made using the same method as for the round ones, but singly rather than winding them out by the dozen. Fiddly, but hey.

    Then comes the jib. Patches and tablings fitted.
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    The bolt rope cut to length and its ends tapered.
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    Rather than clapping on a seizing, unlaying and scraping the yarns as a sailmaker would, a dob of superglue stopped it from unravelling. A yarn was cut out from each strand and the lay twisted tight again, then repeat until there is only one yarn left in each strand.

    Finished
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    And finally.

    Put it all together.

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    The jib halyard goes through a cheek block at the mast head.
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    and belays to a pin through the mast thwart. The sheet belays to a pin through the standing knee on the second thwart.

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    The halyard tackle hooked in and its fall choked off around the sailing pin. In an emergency a tug on the fall pulls it free and down comes the sail. The main sheet is normally held in the hand, but sometimes is also choked under one part of the fall as here. A bowline is spliced into the upper reef cringle, passes through the gammoning and is tied off to the lower reef cringle.
    Both tack hook and the main sheet tackle upper hook are extra large, so that they can accommodate all six cringles as the sail is progressively reefed.

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    The short winter mast makes for the bowsprit, with its heel lashed to the mast and its halyard tye used as the jib out-haul.

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    The tack of the lug is pulled to windward by the tack tye with a single block spliced into each leg. The standing part of the tack tye purchase is made off round the thwart riser and its hauling end is belayed to a pin under the second thwart.
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    Fascinating to see the details of model work.Will you be building a case to keep the model dust free when rigged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Meachen View Post
    Fascinating to see the details of model work.Will you be building a case to keep the model dust free when rigged?
    Yes, most probably.
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    Wow very impressive!

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    Tis a fine thing you have done Nick!
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    ^ Thank you all,
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    Bl***y h*ll Nick, that looks like as much work as building the full sized boat. Or more, since you can buy full sized items like blocks and rope without having to make your own... Beautiful!

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    ^ But a lot less physical
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    Nice job Nick!
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    There is nothing like rigging for attracting dust, so I built a case.
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    All in oak except for the base board, with turned oak bun feet and acorn finials.
    The label is from an up-cycled dog bone.
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    Amazing Nick! Thank you for sharing that. The thread's like an early Christmas present

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    What happens when that rudder hits something?

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    Well done!
    Thanks, Nick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahp View Post
    What happens when that rudder hits something?
    If the crew were so inexperienced or unlucky, it unships. Unless they had ridden over a submerged log, which would have been really unlucky.
    This version was from 1840, they have the same design now in the motor cobles.
    If it works don't fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaraborgcraft View Post
    Nice detailing Nick, i am not yet blessed with the patience to pull that off with fat-finger-syndrome. I was just looking over the detailing of a model of a Hastings Lugger in the Greenwhich museum. Good stuff!
    Thanks, and to Hugh and Kevin.
    It helps to have taken evening classes in silversmithing.
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    Wonderful creativity and attention to detail! That is beautiful.

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    More patience than I will ever have
    Gorgeous

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    Nick, Your attention to detail makes me think of Phillip Reed!
    Nice work sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Greer View Post
    Nick, Your attention to detail makes me think of Phillip Reed!
    Nice work sir!
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    Thank you, but I would never aspire to work at that scale


    Model type: Admiralty Style
    Scale: 1/16" = 1'
    Size: 11 x 6" x 9 1/2"
    I prefer single mast or luggers, the rigging inventory is a lot less repetitive, and work to 1/16th scale (3/4" = 1') My eyesight would not allow much smaller.
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    Yes, I hear you Nick! I have to work with mag lenses on the small stuff!
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    A factoid for you. Admirality models were only made when saw plate technology had improved to the state that thin veneers could be sawn. When that was perfected the modelmakers were able to saw the thin scantlings required by the Admiralty model.
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    Great thread! Great work.

    It's good to see the modelers here coming out of their closets. Some quite fine work, to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Cleek View Post
    Great thread! Great work.

    It's good to see the modelers here coming out of their closets. Some quite fine work, to be sure.
    This page seems to be the home for the model threads, so I moved the coble build into here.
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    This is an amazing amount of detailed work, and one of the best threads I can recall reading here.

    Thank you so much for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamamick View Post
    This is an amazing amount of detailed work, and one of the best threads I can recall reading here.

    Thank you so much for sharing.

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    Thanks Mickey
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    And at the other end of the spectrum, Nick, here's the current state-of-the-art ship model builder's rope-making machine from Alexi Domanoff of Domanoff Workshop in Russia. https://shipworkshop.com/ They will make three- and four-strand rope and cored cable to any length, all automatically. Guys who have them rave about them. It runs about $330 American, including shipping.





    Here in the US, Jim Byrnes made a similar planetary rope-making machine. These are made of machined aluminum and are reportedly back-ordered at present. Probably more expensive than the Domanoff machine that uses acrylic material. Jim Byrnes also makes the finest modeling table saws, thickness sanders, and disk sanders. There isn't any dispute about that among the ship modeling crowd. http://byrnesmodelmachines.com/



    You've proven that you don't have to spend three or four hundred bucks to make good scale miniature rigging line!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Cleek View Post
    And at the other end of the spectrum, Nick, here's the current state-of-the-art ship model builder's rope-making machine from Alexi Domanoff of Domanoff Workshop in Russia. https://shipworkshop.com/ They will make three- and four-strand rope and cored cable to any length, all automatically. Guys who have them rave about them. It runs about $330 American, including shipping.





    Here in the US, Jim Byrnes made a similar planetary rope-making machine. These are made of machined aluminum and are reportedly back-ordered at present. Probably more expensive than the Domanoff machine that uses acrylic material. Jim Byrnes also makes the finest modeling table saws, thickness sanders, and disk sanders. There isn't any dispute about that among the ship modeling crowd. http://byrnesmodelmachines.com/



    You've proven that you don't have to spend three or four hundred bucks to make good scale miniature rigging line!
    Just so. I can only do fixed lengths, limited by the length of the table, but real rope walks are also of a finite length as well.

    A good thickness sander would be a boon.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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