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    Default Help with antique boat decal

    Hello,
    I am restoring a 1931 Thompson TVT Speedster.
    This boat was painted red (yes right over the beautiful mahogany) .
    While in the process of striping off the paint I came across this decal on the center of the dash.
    (see image) This decal was the only form of identification on the entire boat, and so this was my starting point.
    I would really like to replicate the decal and reinstall it when the restoration has been completed.
    The problem is, I can't find one to take a decent picture or scan from, and the local graphic art center said it would be upwards of $150.00 to have them make me one. Decal is about 5 inches wide, 2 inches high.
    Has anyone ever seen this, or have any ideas where to look next ? I've already exhausted all the Thompson sites and specialist, but so far I am still coming up blank. I would love a decent picture or scan of one that is better shape than mine. Or least case, someone that could replicate one without charging an arm an leg. I'm already paying $100.00 a pop every time I head out to buy another piece of mahogany.
    Thank you for your time.
    Tim Thompson Decal 2.jpg

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Should be a beauty when finished. Any more pics of the boat? I am guessing someone on the forum with show up with a better scan of the decal. I am surprised that one of the Thompson sites did hot have one.
    I would visit this site from time to time (always changing) and see if something comes up
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...eDesc=0&_oac=1
    Last edited by Oldad; 10-19-2018 at 07:33 PM.

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Thanks, I check that site daily.
    I know I would think one of them would have something, but so far no luck...
    I will see what pictures I can dig out.

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    My Brother in Law is a graphic designer and does ads for Toyota. I might be able to get him to work on your decal if you like.
    Jay

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Jay,
    That would be great !

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    So, I can't help with the logo, but if Jay can get you a logo, my advice is you can print it on rice paper. Then if you coat it in varnish, the paper will go clear...
    Heute ist so ein schöne Tag...

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    wow learn something new everyday.
    Thanks.
    Now all I have to do is locate the elusive decal.
    Regards,
    Tim

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    http://www.vinylapproach.com/replacementboatlogos.htm

    Then scroll down to Thompson or search

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    tvcman give me your address privately and I will get you in touch with my Brother in Law.
    Jay

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    It's really not terribly difficult to draw a pretty decent replica, which though probably not original enough to please the true "rivet counters", ain't half bad. I drew this one on the same 1991 copy of MacDraw Pro that I illustrated my book with. Too bad they discontinued the program in 1992.

    Fonts are quite close to the original as are the proportions. I can email you copies (PDF and JPEG) if you want to try to find a printer or decal maker. Decal printers which will print white ink are pretty rare, as most just use transparent film in places where white should be. The guys who replicate old decals with white ink are often using old Alps printers, which use something similar to a typewriter ribbon with the white stuff on it. They do a lot of custom decals for modelers and model railroaders, so that may be the place to find a printer who can make you a couple if you supply the artwork.

    Thompson-Decal-textured.jpg

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    A good sign painter would make a nice job of that...

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    It could also be silk screened, although you would need three different screens and to do it on a smooth, varnished surface using a white ink pass, followed by a gold or orange one and finally a black one. The screen material would cost $30 for three sheets. They are pretty easy to make by exposing the film to the sun with a transparency copy of the artwork on top of it. You expose it for about 20 seconds and then develop it in water for about fifteen minutes before washing it to bring out the image.

    Small registration marks on your screens allow you to properly line up the various layers of printing. Most of the good inks are water based. You screen onto a varnished base, and later overcoat the image with more varnish. You can temporarily hold the screen in position for printing with tape. If you screw one up, you can wash it off before it dries and try again. Compared to a lot of boat building work, it is a bit tedious, but not really very difficult. Plus... once you're done, you can make yourself a great T-shirt with the screened logo on it.

    This is where I get the screen film.

    http://www.cbridge.com/howtos/createstencil.shtml

    One of my barrels and the screen that made the center image. It really does make a very clean, professional looking image with a little printing practice.

    screen.jpg

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Or..... you could go with a single color silk screen or rice paper "decal" in a light shade like metallic gold screen ink and end up with something very easy to do but still pretty classy on mahogany. Don't mind me, it's late, I'm bored, and I enjoy graphics puzzles.

    Thompson-Decal-mono-gold.jpg

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Given that there actually is a decal available I would use tracing paper to copy it by hand, add the missing parts, scan and print.

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Why not keeping the original decal ?
    Even deteriorated, it's part of the boat.
    Painting restorers know how to remove old varnish without ruining the support.
    I know one of them, and if you can have an idea about the nature of the varnish I could ask her what product to use.
    Gerard.
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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Todd, Thank you for all your help

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Todd, Please e-mail me the copies you spoke of.
    cvcavc@gmail.com

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Done - jpegs and PDF files of both the full color decal and the single color version sent.

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    Default Re: Help with antique boat decal

    Tim, check your private mail. I did send you my Brother in law's address. He has agreed to help you.
    I hope this helps.
    Jay

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