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    this proposal has been around for about twenty years or so and has a lot of traction amongst law professors (fooking liberals)

    each supreme court seat should have a term limit of eighteen years
    every president would get to nominate a new justice every two years
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    this proposal has been around for about twenty years or so and has a lot of traction amongst law professor (fooking liberals)

    each supreme court seat should have a term limit of eighteen years
    every president would get to nominate a new justice every two years
    Eminently sensible... and completely impossible.

    Constitutional amendments are now completely impossible.... there may NEVER be another one. Amendments require bipartisanship and compromise, which are two words which have permanently disappeared from the political lexicon, in this country.
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."







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    Lifetime appointment is a whole different ball game when folks live to 90 on the regular...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    Eminently sensible... and completely impossible.

    Constitutional amendments are now completely impossible.... there may NEVER be another one. Amendments require bipartisanship and compromise, which are two words which have permanently disappeared from the political lexicon, in this country.
    Totally wrong. Our state has passed several important pieces of legislation with total bipartisan support in the last few years. Including dealing with asset forfeiture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Totally wrong. Our state has passed several important pieces of legislation with total bipartisan support in the last few years. Including dealing with asset forfeiture.
    States are a different story.... NOT the same as the nation as a whole.
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."







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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    States are a different story.... NOT the same as the nation as a whole.

    This state is different. We rank as a nation on our own. Plus, you didn’t specify the federal government, you simply said bipartisan compromise was permanently disappeared, and it ain’t.

    When things happen here, the world watches, not just Nevada.

    If we can pass bipartisan legislation with “Moonbeam” in office, surely anyone, anywhere can. Just follow our example, everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    This state is different. We rank as a nation on our own.
    I can't disagree with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Plus, you didn’t specify the federal government....
    OK, I'm now specifying 'the federal government'.
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."







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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    States are a different story.... NOT the same as the nation as a whole.



    Ah yes, the Disunited States of America. LOL


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    Default Re: how to fix the supreme court

    What's to keep the next president from saying the SC needs 11 justices? Or 13?

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    Yes, the Dems need to pack the court with at least two new justices at the first opportunity.

    Only takes a majority vote in Congress and a Prez signature.

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    I'm not sure anything that drastic is needed. But something is needed. Most things I think of would require amending the constitution, which is unlikely.

    My bottom line is confirming someone to a lifetime appointment ought to require as many senators as removing a president does.

    Then, maybe states with more that 'x' number of people get a third senator; also requires an amendment.
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    I thought the idea of the Senate was as a balance so states with smaller populations would not be bullied by more populous ones.
    Didn't John Jay live into his eighties?

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    This kind of crap is why liberals should not be allowed to re-take power. At root, they're wholly authoritarian and want to make fundamental changes to institutions when they fail to win elections.

    Just 10 years ago, Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, held the House by a wide margin and had the Presidency.

    No one was complaining about the composition of the Supreme Court, the unfairness of 2 Senators for each state, nor the presumed power and influence of rural voters.

    What silliness. Democrats should be shunned by serious people.

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    ^ this from the guy who once defended his support for trump as resting on the hope that a trump presidency would tear apart the long standing institutions in our government and bring about it some sort of libertarian utopia (chaos)

    what silliness indeed
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    I liked the lifetime appointment of a Supreme Court justice so we have a living memory. It was better when the Senate had to get 60 vote to approve of them. It was the democrats who changed the rules and the republicans who blew it up. Now we expect them to find a solution...

    packing a court to exceed 9 can be done... but then again we are faced with further politicization of our revered court.

    Return to the rules to the way they were. That way we get more centrists we want.
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    Actually, a Constitutional Congress is the last thing we would want to see -- with the disproportionate representation, the RWW could easily alter the Constitution to make this country a theocracy. The last thing we need, the last thing the founding fathers wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ron ll View Post
    What's to keep the next president from saying the SC needs 11 justices? Or 13?
    FDR tried that! he bailed because one justice died and another retired.

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    I would suggest a certain Pulitzer Prize winning photograph from the Viet Nam war era.
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    The first referendum to make Puerto Rico a state was in 1988. It was supported by Democrats to help even the political field in the Senate caused by the fly over states.

    The Koch brothers formulated their strategy to capture red states in the 70's, specifically to exploit the fact that it would take far less money to influence the small population states and game the system to their own ends.

    And of course this is all predated by the FDR plan to pack the courts, and long before that, heated deliberations when the constitution was written (3/5th compromise anyone?).

    The problem of, and solution, to rural states having adequate representation has always been a debate. To suggest that it's now all of a sudden some democratic authoritarian plot, is as ludicrous as it is ignorant.

    In the past, the filibuster rules prevented the type of authoritarian take over that republicans are now committing. Rules that the democrats started removing, the republicans are using full force to abuse in their absence. And the response to that abuse of power is not going to be pretty. We can expect partisanship and hostility to escalate very badly over the next few years.

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