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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    To me, the BEST solution, proposed by an economist a few years back, is brilliantly simple, and virtually painless. This guy suggested the following: that we raise the retirement age by one month, each year, for the next 12 years. So, if the age is 66 now, it would be 66 and one month next year, 66 and two months, the year after that, and so on... until it reaches 67. According to his analysis, doing just this would make SS solvent in perpetuity... and the cost (an increase in the retirement age) corresponds to the plain fact that people are living longer, and remaining healthy longer.
    You do realize, of course, that for younger people, the retirement age where you can collect full Social Security benefits is already 67, right? (https://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/agereduction.html)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoez View Post
    You do realize, of course, that for younger people, the retirement age where you can collect full Social Security benefits is already 67, right? (https://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/agereduction.html)
    Sorry... you ARE correct, that increase has been planned for a while.

    Regardless, it is nonetheless true that a one year increase in the retirement age, staged one month per year over 12 years, would be the LEAST painful way to make the system solvent. I could also back other measures, like a rise in the taxable cap (a slight one), a reduction in the rate of cost-of-living increases (also a small one), and so on.
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."







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    It's interesting that Rep. Mark Meadows, chair of the Freedom Caucus says we have to go after "entitlement reform". I agree. https://meadows.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=14896

    This is real change, not "freeze and hope".

    It's also interesting that he does not blame Speaker Ryan for lack of action, since Ryan has long held this position. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...ns-fault?amp=1

    Then there's the Trumpist view as expressed by Rick-MI: the heroes would get it done if it weren't for the treacherous actions of RINOs and Socialist Democrats. Not governance, but rally applause lines for The Base.

    One wonders how the Trumpist gang will keep the wheels on the wagon when we encounter even the slightest ripple of economic challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C. Ross View Post
    One wonders how the Trumpist gang will keep the wheels on the wagon when we encounter even the slightest ripple of economic challenge.
    Well, that's a no-brainer... they'll blame it all on others.

    I certainly don't WANT to see a recession... although, based on historical experience, we're bound to have one sooner or later. If we HAVE to have a recession, I'd find a gold mine of schadenfreude in tagging Trump as the culprit
    "Reason and facts are sacrificed to opinion and myth. Demonstrable falsehoods are circulated and recycled as fact. Narrow minded opinion refuses to be subjected to thought and analysis. Too many now subject events to a prefabricated set of interpretations, usually provided by a biased media source. The myth is more comfortable than the often difficult search for truth."







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    Yeah.... except they're very adept at steering criticism away from themselves, and directing it at Dem's.
    There's a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick-Mi View Post
    ...can you imagine being so intellectually insecure as to wall yourself into an ideological bubble, so that your narrow minded thinking won't be challenged?
    Is that directed at me?

    I use the ignore function on three people on this forum, because they're trolls with but one blinkered thought: they're here generating nothing but static designed to obscure or misdirect otherwise informative threads.

    I hope that's clear?

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    Winning is when you feel SO confident in your campaign... that you take out a tv ad physically threatening your opponent in the Penn. governor's race.

    Well... when you're a Trumpista, anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick-Mi View Post

    . . . can you imagine being so intellectually insecure as to wall yourself into an ideological bubble, so that your narrow minded thinking won't be challenged?
    No.

    I'm sure you could tell us what that is like, though, if only you had the self-awareness required.
    Rattling the teacups.

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    I suppose Rick calls THIS winning also --

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    Republicans are criminals.
    Rattling the teacups.

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    The only way Republicans win is if the machines get hacked. And that is a distinct possibility.
    If he ever drinks the brew of 10 tanna leaves, he will become a monster the likes of which the world has never seen



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    Quote Originally Posted by George Jung View Post
    Yeah.... except they're very adept at steering criticism away from themselves, and directing it at Dem's.
    NATO did it, and China.

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    I'm guessing Rick regards this as just another aspect of 'winning' - racist threats force a black legislator to resign --

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/l...100052467.html
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    I'm sure the victims of the beating from this Right Wing mob are quite exhausted --

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    Or... perhaps Rick means the sort of winning that involves separating young immigrants from their parents. And then lying about it. Apparently there are even more cases of this than the Trump Administration has previously admitted to --

    https://theintercept.com/2018/10/11/...n-immigration/
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    It could be that Rick means 'winning' is lying about which party is the progressive one... by repeatedly and erroneously conflating the Republican party of Lincoln's time with the Republican party of today --

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opi...fs-9226115.php
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    Abraham Lincoln said - and I agree wholeheartedly - "I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts."

    And yet we have Trump administration consistently withholding the truth, making up convenitent lies instead, a misleading the people.

    EXAMPLE --
    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/mnuchin-spins-false-claim-tax-201655363.html

    Is that sort of thing what you mean, Rick, by 'winning'?

    Asking for a Republic...
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    Rick? Rick? You there, Rick?
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    Or maybe Rick was referring to THIS litany of winning --

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    I guess this is the sort of Alice In Wonderland mentality it takes to call the Trump administration's performance... 'winning' --

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    Draketown, GA. April of this year. SO much winning --


    http://time.com/5249811/neo-nazis-bu...stika-georgia/

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    Even more winning.

    Trump says he thinks he treated Christine Blasey Ford with respect - CBS News
    https://apple.news/AStLJqmStTAmjPp-ahGCSdw
    President Trump seemed to show no remorse when asked about Dr. Christine Blasey Ford during an interview with "60 Minutes" that aired Sunday night. "I didn't really make fun of her," Mr. Trump told correspondent Lesley Stahl, "I said the person that we're talking about didn't know the year, the time, the place."Mr. Trump mocked Dr. Ford during a "Make America Great Again" rally earlier this month following Dr. Ford's testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Dr. Ford testified that Brett Kavanaugh, Mr. Trump's Supreme Court nominee, had pinned her on a bed, tried to take off her clothes and covered her mouth in the early 1980s, when the two were teenagers. Kavanaugh has denied Ford's allegations and has since been confirmed to the Supreme Court.
    In the "60 Minutes interview," Mr. Trump said he thought Dr. Ford was treated with great respect, including by himself. When pressed on that claim, the president said, "You know what? I'm not gonna get into it because we won. It doesn't matter. We won."
    I guess mocking someone counts as respect when you're a p****-grabber. And how you behave doesn't matter if you win.

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    More winning!

    A Republican Senator, in the spirit of Trump's core belief in crony capitalism, seems to have helped a family member win a no-bid, $7million, government construction contract. Based upon their 'minority-owned business' status. Because... and this is rich... of a claimed 1/8 Cherokee tribe status. Which seems to be disputed by the tribe.

    https://washingtonpress.com/2018/10/...tract-scandal/

    I wonder if they've scheduled the DNA test yet...
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    I think there was a spelling error somewhere in this thread. It's spelled "whining".
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    More WINNING!!! This time in Texas. This wouldn't have happened, I'm sure, if there had been more guns at the party. Perhaps if the toddlers had been armed?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/four-dead...155117889.html
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    And not just now... but look at the recent history of Republican 'winning' --

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    More Trump-style winning. The budget deficit rose 17% for fy 2018 - due mostly to the decreased revenues from his signature 'tax cuts' for the wealthiest. As the WSJ says - a most unusual development during a time of supposed economic robustitude...

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-gov...018-1539626598
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    Say Rick... is THIS the sort of Trump winning you were referring to? Let me know when you're too exhausted...

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    And HERE'S some winning public policy --

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    GOP Senate Candidate Compares Michelle Obama's Posture to the Chimpanzee from 'Bedtime for Bonzo'

    Republicans just can't turn off the racism.



    By Matthew Chapman / AlterNet
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    Minnesota Republican Senate candidate Karin Housley is facing fresh scrutiny for comments she posted to Facebook in 2009, in which she compared former First Lady Michelle Obama to the chimpanzee from the 1951 Ronald Reagan film "Bedtime for Bonzo" following Michelle's meeting with Queen Elizabeth II.
    "Michelle is soooo far from cool. Don't we expect our First Ladies to at least stand up straight? (And my dear sister, know the proper etiquette and DO NOT TOUCH THE QUEEN!)," Housley wrote in postings revealed by the Huffington Post on Monday. "I do miss Nancy Reagan. Ronald even more. Speaking of Bedtime for Bonzo, I think even that chimp stood up straighter than Michelle. Uh-oh, someone is going to make a comment."
    Housley spokesman Jake Schneider refused to apologize when reached for comment by the Huffington Post. "It's not surprising the Huffington Post—basically an extension of the Democratic Party—would do Tina Smith’s dirty work for her. This is what the radical left does when they are losing—they attack Republicans so they don’t have to come up with solutions to the problems Minnesotans are facing."
    Comparing African-Americans to apes or monkeys is a common racist tropebased on a supposed resemblance, and on the fact that many African cultures live alongside the great apes. During the slave era, it was a handy way of pretending black people were less evolved and thus less deserving of basic rights and freedoms.
    Controversies over racist simian references have been commonplace in this year's election. Florida gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis has been on the defensive ever since he said Florida should not "monkey this up" by electing his Democratic opponent Andrew Gillum, the first black man to win a major-party gubernatorial nomination in the state. And Carla Maloney, secretary of the Republican Committee of Beaver County, Pennsylvania, resigned after social media posts were revealed in which she called black NFL players kneeling for the national anthem "baboons."
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    Ms. Housley has been polishing up her image as a reasonable, friendly, family kind of gal. She has ads with her famous hockey playing husband.

    It's a ruse. She's always been a bit of a pit bull. This news will fire up the red base who hate Ms. Obama and will see it as an unfair attack. The rest of us will see it for what it is.

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    And more winning. Trump's promised rally for Cruz in the biggest stadium in Texas we can find” turns into a venue for 8,000.

    Since the biggest venue in the state holds over 102,000... he's fallen about 94,000 short.

    But, to give credit where credit is due, this IS about the closest he has come to accuracy in a long while...


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-vow-rally-biggest-082930950.html?ncid=facebook_yahoomainn_em41hhdtfi c

    Rick - are you exhausted yet? Just let me know...
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    '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
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    ‘We’re getting our asses kicked’: Republicans massively out-raised in election homestretch
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/16/democrats-republicans-fundraising-midterms-908825


    Democratic challengers out-raised Republican House incumbents in 92 House districts in the past three months — a staggering mismatch that boosts the odds of a GOP washout in November.

    There is no historical precedent for financing this broad and deep for congressional challengers. About half of the 92 GOP incumbents are protecting battleground districts, and some of them posted personal-record fundraising totals in the third quarter of 2018 — but they still found themselves swamped by a combination of incandescent online fundraising for Democrats and bigger donors spreading money to challengers around the country, as 61 Democrats raised over $1 million. Fifty-one House Republicans were out-raised at least 2-to-1, according to POLITICO’s analysis of the latest Federal Election Commission filings, while 71 were outspent by their challenger. Only five Democratic House incumbents were out-raised.
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