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    You don't have to be an asme certified pressure vessel operator to know how incredibly dangerous that boiler is! I didn't see a relief valve of any type anywhere. then watching the guy leaning over all those moving belts Wheels and sheaves made me really nervous. But like all this old stuff it's hypnotic... I think we found a place for our saw dust!
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    I bet the various valves & gauges would blow - but not sure that'd be enough. Couldn't agree more on the belts though.

    Years ago, I worked in a sawmill that had various belts, open saw blades & such. One does learn to be careful!
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    The relief valve was t the top of the boiner, visible in only one shot.

    And yes those belts should be fitted with guards.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Cool. Has a pressure gauge and centrifugal governor so there must be a safety valve somewhere. I agree about the belts. OSHA is not amused. At least no one had loose clothing and the one guy with long hair was far from the belts.

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    What a marvelous machine!!! And the smells- of the fresh-cut lumber and the hot oil & grease, etc. must be intoxicating!

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    Safety valve is at 1:37. Much newer than the boiler by appearances- still nice and shiny.

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    Thanks Bill, yes it has a T&P valve. I C it now.

    Occasionally over the years I was called upon to give advice on the city steam Loop feeding large buildings. One day they called us to turn it on because they were all afraid of the 300lb in the .75" pipe feeding 2 step down regulators on the 5- 6" low pressure main of a 20,000 + square foot building, on the 4th floor they had steam in 5 minutes, scary stuff!! We all sat down and had a good strong drink after that adventure!
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    Safety valve is at 1:37. Much newer than the boiler by appearances- still nice and shiny.
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    I suspect the boiler receives a periodic inspection as all pressure vessels are required on a set basis. Particularly for what is considered high pressure (over 30psi). I'm thinking this mill is part of a history museum, it's certainly not run as a for profit business. The pressure from insurance companies would have eliminated the hazardous exposures long ago.

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    at least he was wearing hearing protection
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    I see it's on the Registry of Historic Places, so it's definitely not running commercially. A little digging located it just NE of Redding, Ca. I hope it was out of the range of all the fires down there this summer! Thanks Denise!

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    Next time you get up to Sonoma County, CA, check out Sturgeon's Mill. http://www.sturgeonsmill.com/ It's a real working steam sawmill. A lot more than a just planing mill. Open and operating four weekends a year. It's just a few miles from my house. Definitely worth a trip!

    If you think the exposed belts in that planning mill aren't OSHA-compliant, get a load of the size of these saws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0FUBhCizWE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh MacD View Post
    I see it's on the Registry of Historic Places, so it's definitely not running commercially. A little digging located it just NE of Redding, Ca. I hope it was out of the range of all the fires down there this summer! Thanks Denise!
    ?? The ski area I normally ski at is on the register (at least the 1948 single chair lift that's been completely rebuilt is) & it's a commercial operation.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhcjXNynm3k is just one of the steam powered rice mills in Asia , They burn the rice hulls for fuel.

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    Just one more. This one in the UK .magnificent..... Steam....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x44cEw2tMY0

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    On a more manageable scale and boaty..... From Small Boats Monthly

    https://smallboatsmonthly.com/article/steamed/

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    Oh, come on. That is just....Magnificent!!

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    Ski it if you can, Garret!

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    Hi Jeff Yes these things are out of reach for one man . But they inspire us to do all we can to create all we can. Man's limitations are created within his own mind,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce brown View Post
    ski it if you can, garret!
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    we used to do some work at a small steam powered mill. neat thing was that it was quiet compared to most mills, slow speed and lots of torque.
    Was run 50/50 commercial and as a tourist venture/school visits etc.
    closed down a couple of years back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    at least he was wearing hearing protection
    What?!

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    What a hoot that set up is! They must be doing something right, considering how long that mill has been steaming along! There is a big learning curve there!
    I once had a dream of running my shop from a line shaft and steam power but, tending the boiler all day long would have been too much hassle!
    However Bill Garden lived on a Canadian Island he called "Toad's Landing" and used a line shaft drive for his shop. I think he had an old gas engine though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh MacD View Post
    I see it's on the Registry of Historic Places, so it's definitely not running commercially. A little digging located it just NE of Redding, Ca. I hope it was out of the range of all the fires down there this summer! Thanks Denise!
    It appears that they are still in business. https://phillipsbrothersmill.com/
    Phillips Brothers Mill
    29334 Bullskin ridge rd.
    Oak Run, California
    USA 96069
    The Mill is open to the public by appointment only . Please call in advance, to make arrangements call Gary at 530-945-1549 p.s. the map is not correct, as we are 2 miles down the road. The numbers are out of sequence.
    map location 4043'15.8"N 12159'14.2"W
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