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    Here is 3-1/2 inches of camber. Looks better but still not quite right...
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    Scaling off the plans gives me 6 inches! Sounds like a lot, but that's what it says....
    I'll be making a template for 6 inches next...

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    It looks to me as though the beam you like has most of the bend at the center and is straighter at the ends.

    One way of achieving that is to bend the beam over a temporary ridge pole. If you like it bend one at the other end then install 2 more temporary longitudinal beams, purlins I'll call them, halfway between the ridge beam and the edge of the cabin and laminate your beams over them right in place.

    That worked very well for me.

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    Here it is at 6 inch camber.
    Looks a lot more like it.

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    Lots more of the bulkhead gets cut away and the rear beam is 2 inches wide.

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    I should correct myself in saying that the camber is actually in the plans... it is just not spelled out... I needed to scale from the plan.

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    Looking good!!!

    So Cool seeing Atkin's Boat.

    Do you plan on building the pipe handholds/canvas frames?

    You're building a Damn sweet boat. Love the hull shape.

    -Derek

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    OK, I who said the initial try looks good stand corrected. The six inch looks much better.
    Steamboat

    I get by with the judicious use of serendipity.

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    It's looking great! The 6" camber definitely looks the part. Are you planning to stick with the flat cabin front on the plan? I've always liked the looks of this one. If I ever get around to building this, I'll go this way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo4352 View Post
    I should correct myself in saying that the camber is actually in the plans... it is just not spelled out... I needed to scale from the plan.

    Tim, I think you've made a good choice in going with the camber that you settled on. But I have to disagree with your assessment of the plans. If the dimension isn't called out, it isn't there. One cannot be expected to scale an accurate dimension from a reproduced drawing that is printed on paper.

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    Moving ahead with the clamps / beam shelves.
    The cutouts in the bulkheads will allow me to fit the clamps in one full length, although laminated.
    Should be stronger, I hope, than splitting them at the bulkheads.

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    Got both bulkheads and most of the splash well epoxied in this weekend. The cabin bulkhead got cut to it's finished size.
    I'm on vacation next week so hope to get a lot more done on my stay-cation.
    Part of that will be running out to get some more ply and other wood for certain things...

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    Very nice progress., Timo. Love the color and the camber. Well done!

    Mike

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    Took my road trip to Homestead Hardwoods this morning.
    Got more plywood for the decking and cabin sides.
    More white oak for the rub rails, and some beautiful cypress that I have planned for the toe rails, clamps, bunk framing, deck beams, etc.
    Epoxied in the rest of the splash well this afternoon.

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    Start of the cypress clamps.
    And bulkhead #5 cut out.

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    Looks like 5 days later, and I have 1/4 of the clamps installed.
    Each side is being laminated from two pieces.
    Beware future Ninigret builders...the clamps are a bit tricky!
    But it will happen...and then on to the next hurdle...
    Lots of sanding taking place while the epoxy sets...

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    Getting there on these clamps.
    The plan is in place and is working out OK.
    Starboard side about done.
    Should have both sides done this week.

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    As usual you always need more clamps than you have...

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    Lotta pieces of wood, eh Tim?, and each one custom fitted. Looks nice. I keep telling myself to take it easy and enjoy it. Gonna be about 2000 pieces when I'm done. I kept track up to about 1200 then lost track.

    You could still beat me to the water's edge, but I'm closing in on the bugger. Be cool if we launched on the same day.

    Speaking of days, today marks 2 years to the day since I picked up a pencil and said, "OK, let's build this sucker." Lotta chips and sawdust since then.

    Anyway, I'm still watching you, and enjoying doing so. Keep on trucking mate.

    Edited to add...Hey, I just noticed that your first post on this build thread was just 8 days after my first on mine. Cool!
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    Yep, I'm right at about 2 years in to this thing too.
    Time flies.

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    Un-clamped the clamps today, and epoxied in the last section of the starboard side.
    I'm pretty happy how it's coming out.

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    When I built my Somes Sound, I followed designer John Brooks' suggestion to bend/laminate the shear clamps on the hull molds before planking. Then once planked and turned, it was a fairly simple matter to fit them into position. This info is too late for you, Tim, but maybe the next guy will benefit.

    Good job you are doing!

    Jeff

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    I've just had a browse through this build thread and it's looking good.

    I'm looking at another build and Ninigret is on the list but never having seen a boat with an "inboard" outboard I have to wonder about the practicality of such a set up when it comes to servicing the engine. They are normally serviced from the side and behind which is where all the natural access is on a normal transom mount. Does anyone have any input on that aspect?

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    There is an addition to the original plans that shows an transom mounted outboard so it looks like it can be done... I have yet to see one done that way however.
    The extra cockpit space would be nice. Probably an additional foot to be gained there.
    With the size / width of my well and the cutout in the transom I don't foresee any issues with routine maintenance of the motor.
    Weight balance, especially if using a larger four stroke, would concern me more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve TN 15 View Post
    I've just had a browse through this build thread and it's looking good.

    I'm looking at another build and Ninigret is on the list but never having seen a boat with an "inboard" outboard I have to wonder about the practicality of such a set up when it comes to servicing the engine. They are normally serviced from the side and behind which is where all the natural access is on a normal transom mount. Does anyone have any input on that aspect?
    I never had a problem servicing mine. Clearly not as convenient as a transom mount, but not all that hard. The trade off is having the clean lines with the OB nicely hidden.

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    Thanks guys!

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    I got the cockpit sole pretty much done this weekend.
    Kind of had to....our 9 year old grandson wants to climb up in there every time he is here, so it was time to get er done.
    I have a couple more supports to add in before it's all done.

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    Looks good Tim. I like the way the grain in the 2 center pieces lines up. Well, it doesn't but it does. Anyway, I like it.

    What's that rectangular opening for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib Etheridge View Post
    Looks good Tim. I like the way the grain in the 2 center pieces lines up. Well, it doesn't but it does. Anyway, I like it.

    What's that rectangular opening for?
    The opening in the rear bulkhead is needed for me to be able to get at the lower outboard bracket bolts.
    I may make a drawer that fits in there for tackle or tools or whatever storage.

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    Love the cockpit space! nice work man.

    Lucky grandkid

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    A little diversion from fitting my floor boards, and I have a pair of quarter knees installed.
    Made them so I could also connect the rear deck beam to them.
    Should be plenty strong, I hope.

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    This weekend I spent ripping the strips to laminate my gunwales, rub rails, whatever I should call them... They will be getting installed later...
    In the ripping mood, I also ripped the strips to laminate the main cabin beam that goes over the bulkhead at frame 5.
    Eight 5/16" strips, white oak, Gflex epoxy. No steam. They pulled in to the form with little trouble.
    I'll let them harden for a few days before I unclamp them... the Gflex seems to take longer to fully harden.
    Got some heat going under a tarp to speed things along.

    Somewhere under all those clamps is an oak cabin beam...
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    I am reminded here Timo, that a fella can never have too many clamps!
    Nice Work!
    Jay

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    It has been a while since I have posted anything new on the boat.
    With winter coming I had to take time out to split firewood, and then fill up, and put a new roof on the wood shed.
    Glad that's done.
    In between I have that new cabin beam in, and messed around setting up some plywood pieces and battens that give me an idea of how the cabin will look. Pretty exciting for me anyhow...
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    I may start a new thread if needed... but wonder if you guys can help me decipher these plans showing how the windshield frame / deck beam connection should be made...

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    I'm still trying to figure out the best way to go about this... Right now I'm thinking an angled block (30 degrees) on each side attached to the clamps that the deck beam can then attach to... so the deck beam itself will be at a 30 degree angle...
    Or should the deck beam be installed plumb, and another angled cross piece be attached to it?
    See what you think from the plans pix.
    Thanks
    Tim

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    I built the deck first then brought the (curved) windshield frame down to the forward beveled edge of a cleat on the deck. The deck extends inside which is nice because with a lip applied to it's after edge it provides a bit of useful dashboard.

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    Well, I got the forward bow area deck beams all in over this weekend.
    Carlins and the short side deck beams coming up soon.
    The list is getting shorter of things to do, but I am far from finished, that's for sure.
    Keep plugging away at it.......

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    More work on the bow deck framing.
    The plans call for a 16 by 16 hatch.
    I widened the hatch from 16 inches to 18. I'm not a big guy, but 16 is just too narrow to get my shoulders through comfortably.
    So it will be 16 by 18. Custom fit for me.


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    Been working on finishing up the deck framing.
    The short little side deck beams are just over 4 inches long...
    Carlins, (or carlings as Atkin calls them on the plans... Carling is a beer to me...no?) are made from cypress like the clamps were... they went in fairly easy.

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