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    Since one of our brotms is a black smith we definitely need a few more metal working threads. I donít do much more than dabble really but I like working with copper.

    Hereís a bracelet I made the other day starting with a bit of round stock like the one itís propped on. This one is probably ninety percent hammer work.

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    Anyone else have any metal work to share?
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    I'm currently pouting, after two months of struggling to weld aluminum sheet successfully.

    But this guy doesn't suck...




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    Never mind about the welding, how goes the wheel?
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Never mind about the welding, how goes the wheel?
    Haven't bought it yet. The current plan (otherwise known as the current revision to the thrice rewritten master plan ) is to bring my Lone Star Cruise Liner home in a few weeks from my friend's house in Ft. Wayne, and fabricate a new upper windshield out of aluminum for it. I don't really need the wheel to do that.

    My first project using the wheel will be fabbing a boat tail body for a Model A speedster (a friend's project). I was able to get some hands on tutoring on a wheel thanks to another friend (which was the impetus for all of this in the first place). I seem to have much more of a knack for it than welding.

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    What are the specs on your welder? What are the specs on the aluminium you are attempting to weld?
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    As of a couple of weeks ago my son officially became an apprentice in light fabrication, but he's been with the company over 6 months now. That covers him for building in steel and aluminium up to 20mm thick. Mostly he uses 2 or 3mm thick stainless sheet, sections and tube, but he has gone up to 6m/20' long RSJs with 14mm webs, welding 20mm thick base plates on the. Mostly it's cutting, folding and welding (TIG) simple shapes, but occasionally he gets to fabricate more interesting shapes at a sister company that is equipped with wheels, bead rollers, etc.

    I'm hoping at some point he's going to have a bit of spare time to teach me some basic welding, because my pop-riveted bike rack bracket I made on Sunday is seriously ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    What are the specs on your welder? What are the specs on the aluminium you are attempting to weld?
    Eastwood TIG-200 and the aluminum is .060 3003 aluminum. My mentor/teacher is doing very nice welds, so it's the operator, not the equipment or material.

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    Here’s a Google Earth view of my toys. The Corvair on the blue flatbed truck is waiting for transaxle and brake work, while the Lone Star is needing a good power wash and needs an upper windshield.

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    Nice bracelet , a little Celtic styling at the return, good detail on the leaf. Are you going to buff to a gloss than resin coat or leave it in all its tool marked coolness.

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    Thanks. My wife claimed it just like it is with the addition of a quick dip in shellac.
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    Well, I cut two pieces of metal. Does that count?

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    Also, I mushed some tubing flat, then bent it into little clips to hold the tent poles for the New Improved Skiff Tent.

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    Nice...
    I have made seat hanging knees, and pintles and gudeons that way.
    The gudeons are intuitive, look in The Whale Boat Book for an elegant solution of details for the pintle attachment.

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    I posted these before, but for the sake of contributing;

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    More old stuff.
    I forged and fabricated this from a really badly designed home made anchor that I was given.
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    The arms were too long, the palms small and blunt edged and the stock wayy to short. The old stock is now the core of the wooden stock which is the correct length, and less hard on Peerie's paintwork.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Pattern making for some little blocks I want to cast.
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    The little pokey bit on the sprit guzzinta the hole. The halyard will pull up on the ring (no topping lift, itís a boomless sprit rig), and two lines will run from cleats on the quarter knees to the ring, to triangulate and fix the sprit end.

    The snotter will hold up the forward end, and a cloth laid over the top will make a dandy boom tent, with practically no extra hardware.

    Whee!

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    I am making small fittings for a sailing model boat out of copper wire, bronze welding rods and sheet brass. I am very clumsy and need smaller tools than I have.

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    Thimbles for cringles on a sail I am sewing.
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    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Todayís project is a thimble for the bridle. Haha. Twins!

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    Some sterling silver rod arrived in the mail today for me to play with. More hammer and file work.

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    I’m looking forward to trying a little casting too once my new torch gets here.
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    Nice, Jim. I like them.

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    Making a kitchen knife as a Christmas present. No photos yet.
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    That’s what I’m working on too Peter. My older daughter likes the ring I made her out of copper and wears it all the time. I thought silver might be a nice upgrade that won’t turn her finger green. Plus, I’ve got a few other ideas cooking. It’s going to be a homemade jewelry type of year for Christmas.
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    What steel are you using Jim ?
    I'm using the blade from a broken cane knife , good steel a bit under 1/8'' thick. It will need heat treatment .
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    Sorry Peter, I meant I was making Christmas presents. No knife making this year, but I’m looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
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    A pair of 12 inch copper rain chain bowls, awaiting final coats of clear lacquer.
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    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    I got an oxy/map gas torch off eBay, so now I can mess around and do a little casting in copper and silver using cuttlebone to make the mold.

    Making the mold.

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    And all set in some sand.

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    That’s hot!

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    Unmolding.

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    Not too too bad for my first attempt.

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    I should have carved out more for the tentacles. The next one will be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    A pair of 12 inch copper rain chain bowls, awaiting final coats of clear lacquer.
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    Those turned out nice Nick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    Those turned out nice Nick.
    Thanks, I am content. Raised over a wooden stake with wooden mallets, so a bit more rustic than I could have achieved with a metal stake. The first two coats of lacquer are a bit dull, so I will have to see whether the next coat will bring up a gloss or whether I buff it off and start over.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Thanks for the link Peter, I’ve never done lost wax casting before. I learned the cuttlebone technique along time ago in a jewelry making class. The cuttlebone give the casting a wood grained look, which can be interesting, and has the advantage of being very quick to do. The downside is that fine detail is lacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsjpd1 View Post
    Since one of our brotms is a black smith we definitely need a few more metal working threads. I don’t do much more than dabble really but I like working with copper.

    Here’s a bracelet I made the other day starting with a bit of round stock like the one it’s propped on. This one is probably ninety percent hammer work.

    4A862CAF-3EBD-4E81-8782-C9CC348BB67A.jpg

    Anyone else have any metal work to share?
    Not yet, but a few months ago I managed to swap a standard China built drill press for a nice, older but in very good condition mill drill. Table movement, 300 x 180, vertical is 150. Complete with coolant pump, hold down kit, drill chuck as well as milling bit chuck, some basic tooling. Big enough to do anything I'm likely to want to do.
    It's sitting alongside my metalworking lathe, welder and such, awaiting my move ashore into a bigger workshop in a couple of years.
    I'm looking forward to doing my own bronze castings, turning, drilling and facing all the resulting bits.

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    Today I’m messing around with putting a patina on a couple copper pieces.

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    Devils club leaf pendant.

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    -Jim

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    Nicely done Jim.
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