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    How do you brag about America when you talk to them?
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    Mostly just apologize lately.

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    Get a lot of American visitors here.
    I try not to mention US politics and the Stable Genius, unless visitors do.
    Haven't found anyone bragging- they mostly keep clear of politics, or apologise for the Orange Wonder.
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    I never did brag, but as Steven says, nowadays I just apologize.

    Unless I'm in Great Britain, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand - then I just apologise.
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    We don't brag, ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    I never did brag, but as Steven says, nowadays I just apologize.

    Unless I'm in Great Britain, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand - then I just apologise.
    I agree with the majority here. In fact, if I had a flag patch on my bike in Europe, it wouldn't be the USA! Maybe Canada, we sound alike mostly and people wouldn't notice.

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    A question: Just what is it that US citizens have to brag about? I don't mean just since Trump - I mean for many years.
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    I looking forward to reading Glen Longino's response.
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    I openly express my support for Trump and his policies, unapologetically.

    I've found this generates more respect than the duck and cuck. People will often indicate that they too admire and/or support Trump. Trump has plenty of support throughout Britain and Europe.

    Trump has in many ways really opened things up in Europe. He's changed the narrative.

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    My European friends are just as fond of Trump as I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    I openly express my support for Trump and his policies, unapologetically.

    I've found this generates more respect than the duck and cuck. People will often indicate that they too admire and/or support Trump. Trump has plenty of support throughout Britain and Europe.

    Trump has in many ways really opened things up in Europe. He's changed the narrative.
    Been to a lot of bars then SB! Probably the only place you see like minded lovers of the yellow haired one.

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    Not to burst any bubbles, but I met both a Syrian and an Iraqi who both seriously did not like Obama. The whole ‘ugly America/US sucks’ is not a new phenomenon.

    Haters gonna hate.
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    I've met with many citizens of other nations over the decades, Russian and Chinese among these.

    On no occasion has any of them ever apologized for their government or the political leaders that operate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    Not to burst any bubbles, but I met both a Syrian and an Iraqi who both seriously did not like Obama. The whole ‘ugly America/US sucks’ is not a new phenomenon.

    Haters gonna hate.
    WOW, one Syrian and one Iraq out of how many Syrians and Iraqi's? I'm impressed Brian, I truly am.

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    There are outliers in every crowd...
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.V. Airlie View Post
    WOW, one Syrian and one Iraq out of how many Syrians and Iraqi's? I'm impressed Brian, I truly am.
    The OP was looking for first hand information on a topic and I provided some. I’m sorry it neither found your approval nor your political leaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    Not to burst any bubbles, but I met both a Syrian and an Iraqi who both seriously did not like Obama. The whole ‘ugly America/US sucks’ is not a new phenomenon.

    Haters gonna hate.
    And people didn't like either Bush, or Clinton, or Reagan, etc. etc. I first heard the term "ugly American" in the 60s...
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    More of a humble brag, I just ask when was the last time they went shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    And people didn't like either Bush, or Clinton, or Reagan, etc. etc. I first heard the term "ugly American" in the 60s...
    Well, the book came out in '59 and the movie in '63!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post

    Haters gonna hate.
    A pointless, meaningless, vacuous mantra designed to deflect any point or argument from genuine thought or consideration. The growing prevalence of such mantras in American dialogue is certainly nothing to brag about.

    And why "brag" anyway. Bragging doesn't win any friends and certainly won't affect the opinions most non Americans will have already formed, whether favourable or not, of America.
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    I've never 'bragged' about the USA, or the Midwest (most of the country considers us fly-over country, so we're already naturally humble), or much of anything else, when I've traveled - because it isn't warranted. I try to avoid politics when out and about, but would have no trouble disavowing our current mess in Washington. They are an embarrassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    A question: Just what is it that US citizens have to brag about? I don't mean just since Trump - I mean for many years.
    That is what I was trying to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    I openly express my support for Trump and his policies, unapologetically.

    I've found this generates more respect than the duck and cuck. People will often indicate that they too admire and/or support Trump. Trump has plenty of support throughout Britain and Europe.

    Trump has in many ways really opened things up in Europe. He's changed the narrative.
    How does on define 'plenty'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    Not to burst any bubbles, but I met both a Syrian and an Iraqi who both seriously did not like Obama. The whole ‘ugly America/US sucks’ is not a new phenomenon.

    Haters gonna hate.
    That's not the point. If you are going to 'sell' America to someone, what would be your selling points?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
    That's not the point. If you are going to 'sell' America to someone, what would be your selling points?
    I don't see much worth selling about the US these days. and the current administration wouldn't let the buyers in anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Blue View Post
    Trump has plenty of support throughout Britain and Europe.

    Trump has in many ways really opened things up in Europe. He's changed the narrative.
    Interesting notion,I wonder why I haven't met any Trump supporters.Hes more usually held up as an example that our leaders could be worse.

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    Originally Posted by Sky Blue
    Trump has plenty of support throughout Britain and Europe.

    Trump has in many ways really opened things up in Europe. He's changed the narrative.


    If calling him an idiot, or the laughing stock running America into the ground is part of the narrative, you're right SB, he has changed it.



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    I have been to Europe several times. I am not sure why I would brag about the US. People seem quite happy there, perhaps more so than people in the US. They are nearly all multi-lingual, a rarity with a US citizen. Every plane I have been I have been quite impressed and honestly wonder when we will step up our game.


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    Politics is a subject that is usually dodged in casual conversations, but not any longer. There are Trump supporters around of course, but I haven't met anyone who will admit to it in company. But you get a deal of satirical commrnt.
    Even our brown nosing politicians seem to have taken a step back and get embarrassed when asked directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downthecreek View Post
    A pointless, meaningless, vacuous mantra designed to deflect any point or argument from genuine thought or consideration. The growing prevalence of such mantras in American dialogue is certainly nothing to brag about.

    And why "brag" anyway. Bragging doesn't win any friends and certainly won't affect the opinions most non Americans will have already formed, whether favourable or not, of America.
    A pointless, meaningless, vacuous post. Didn’t even address the OP.

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    I once talked to a Chinese lady. She mentioned that 1949 was a very good year. I recognized the significance of that year immediately but didn't argue with her. More recently on an all day hike I talked to folks of several different nationalities. They mentioned pluses and minuses of America as well as several other countries. It's all interesting and seems to underscore the point that America is not necessarily the be all or end all to everyone in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willmarsh3 View Post
    I once talked to a Chinese lady. She mentioned that 1949 was a very good year. I recognized the significance of that year immediately but didn't argue with her. More recently on an all day hike I talked to folks of several different nationalities. They mentioned pluses and minuses of America as well as several other countries. It's all interesting and seems to underscore the point that America is not necessarily the be all or end all to everyone in the world.
    The only bragging I do is how beautiful the Olympic Peninsula is and how I love it here. I never bring up politics, and I sure won't apologize for something I haven't done.

    Trump is an anomaly, and won't last forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf View Post
    The only bragging I do is how beautiful the Olympic Peninsula is and how I love it here. I never bring up politics, and I sure won't apologize for something I haven't done.

    Trump is an anomaly, and won't last forever.
    But, the consequences of his being here will effect my grt. grt and probably get,grt,grt nephews and nieces.

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    SV, if it wasn't so serious it would be funny, like one of those movies made in the 30's satirising dictators.

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    It is reassuring that the average person I meet here in Asia doesn't really follow US news any more than the average person in the US follows SE Asian news. For the few that do, they are either concerned and sympathetic if they are pro-US, or gleeful and mocking if they are pro-China. But mostly, the general consensus seems to be, “Not our monkeys, not our circus.”

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